My god it is so relevant to what is going on in this world today, a true masterpeice.


Anyone watch it? What was your take on its statement of war ?

 

Pretty funny cause I have had this movie for over a year and a half. When it comes to HK films, it is WTLY every day

Epic movie though

I dig the variations in color emoting the different moods, scenarios, etc..

If you havent seen it check it out

 

ya i would love to get a copy of it on dvd

 

DVD is real cheap on eBay..

The colors and scenery is just amazing in this movie

 

It was a great flick, the cinimatography was outstanding and the musical score and art direction were both phenomenal.

The story struck me as being somewhat mythical, there were elements that fell right in line with traditional myth concepts and it was presented in a very heavily allegorical style.

As for relevence to this modern world, I could see how some really ignorant people could think that the Emperor Qin represents W and maybe the morale is we shouldn't try to kill him since after all he's only waging war for the greater goal of a unified world and peace.

But there's one big difference, Qin had a vision and a plan for actually uniting adjacent lands, seperate kingdoms who had differences but were essentially similar culturally. He had a solid vision for winning the peace, and he was very wise and intelligent.

W. doesn't have a clue about the consequenses of his decisions, he's meddling with the lives and affairs of people halfway around the world that he has absolutely no cultural understanding of, and the stupid f*** couldn't reason his way out of a wet paper bag.

 

ha ha, well, do you, or do you know the consequenses of doing nothing?

 

was probing more along the lines of this.

The blind hatred and revenge displayed by the "assasins" and how they were more then willing to lay their own lives and the lives of those they loved on the line for their "cause" which was pure hatred fueld by revenge.

That is of course until broken sword came the the ultimate conclusion of what war means. War should only be used and waged as a means for ultimate peace, that is what every warrior should strive for. That was his message, war for wars sake is nothing but and endless cycle that perpetuates its self, but war for the greater cause of unification of china was an acceptable cause. IE the entire portion of "two words". Dont know just thought it was very relevant for todays times, you have the hate filled on both sides who would blindly kill with no thoughts beyond revenge. Then you have those rare few, who see past the hatred and want to unify differing cultures.


blah its 3am and im watching fear and loathing in Las vegas so im sort of not paying much attention now hahaha dude is flipping out in the tub.. hahaha

 

So wheelerjb, do you know what "False Dichotomy" means?

Try re-phrasing your reply without rotting it in a fallacious argument and I might respond....

(BTW: Nice analysis dre)

 

i'm not big on the big words, so yes, i do not know what dichotomy means...but still, no one can say what the world woudl be like, good or bad, if the past two years did not happen. neither can you, so saying that Bush is a stupid f*** for doing it has no basis because you can't give a solid reason for not. maybe i am looking at it wrong, but what would you be saying if he did nothing and crap hit the fan...then you would complain he did nothing....that is all. you can't have it both ways

 

Funny, it seems to me that when the crap really did hit the fan, the morning of September 11- he did just that, absolutely nothing, for well over an hour after the unprecedented occurance of 4 simultaneous hijackings, not to mention the first WT building being hit.

Whats gone on since then is nothing more than a blind corporate takeover of our military for the purpose of securing a few more years of "cheap" oil, and fomenting more rage and hatred against us than we as a nation have ever seen in our history.

The "False Dichotomy" I referred to is the false mode of thinking there was only 2 paths to move forward, this was our only choice- to "do nothing" or to embark on a unilateral military endevour, deploying the might of the US armed forces in a mission to "rid the world of terrists".

Our commander in theif followed the suggestions of his corporate criminal enablers to take over the main trade routes and open up a pipeline between the Indian Ocean and Russia as well as forcefully comandeering the second largest known proven petroleum reserves, with an emphasis on making sure oil prices are set with dollars rather than euros.

Yeah we took Saddam out of power, but really- was it worth it so far? will it be worth it if it costs us 10,000 troops and 1 trillion dollars?
what if we lose all of our civil rights and have to register and get a license for everything?
what if we lose all of our allies and find ourselves in a war against the rest of the friggin' world? just how much can it be worth?

At some point, apparently for you, not yet- but at some level it becomes obvious that it isn't worth it, some of us that lived through the VietNam era know when we're being lied to and when our government is doing bad things in our name, a lot of people are completely blind to it though, and even amongst those with awareness, some people just have different ideas of where that line gets drawn.



There is a lot of choices that could have been made other than this that would have-

1) cost many less billions of dollars

2) cost many less lives of our soldiers and loved ones (1000 and counting in Iraq alone, are we keeping track of how many in Afghanistan?)

3) built upon- rather than destroying the good will, sympathy, and support that we had the world over after September 11.

the list could go on for days....


That is what I'd expect from our elected leaders and that is why I don't think this country can tolerate these criminals being in charge for another 4 years

 

i need to go see this movie

 

I especially agree with #3. It is a point that I myself have almost completely forgotten about.

After 9/11, the world had our back. A unification that only comes along every few hundred years took place. And what did we do? We wrapped up that cool package and drop kicked it back to where it came from. Other nation's lost face, and we revealed our beligerent international policies under Bush Co.

 

Like us Americans, who value unity so much that we put religious tolerance and equal rights for all races into our Consitution.