Anyone wanna go hate on some haters
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Anyone wanna go hate on some haters
Don't get me wrong. I've got nothing against hate and violence. I just can't stand it when it's built out of generalism and ignorance.
I know that the klan, et al. are ALL worth a good beat-down, therefore I'm not generalizing, huh?
I know that the klan, et al. are ALL worth a good beat-down, therefore I'm not generalizing, huh?
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Date Location Event Description Wednesday, March 02, 2005 Westland, Michigan Public meeting Organized by the Southeast Michigan Volunteer Militia Saturday, March 05, 2005 California White power concert Southern California concert organized by Patriots Call Productions and White Heat Productions, in conjunction with Condemned Records. Note: Scheduled bands include Platoon 14, Patriots Call, Three On The Tree, and Red, White, & Black Thursday, March 10, 2005 - Sunday, March 13, 2005 Ft. Wayne, Indiana Anti-gay demonstrations Organized by virulently anti-gay activist Fred Phelps and members of his Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas Saturday, March 12, 2005 - Sunday, March 13, 2005 Romulus, Michigan Freedom Seminar Sponsored by Freedom Bound International, a sovereign citizen and tax protest organization Saturday, March 12, 2005 - Sunday, March 13, 2005 Newport Beach, California 2005 Health and Freedom Rally Conference focusing on government conspiracies, sponsored by the Freedom Law School, a tax protest group and American Free Press, an anti-Semitic, conspiracy-oriented publication. Sunday, March 13, 2005 Charleston, West Virginia Monthly meeting Meeting of White Revolution's West Virginia chapter with the West Virginia Skinheads Saturday, March 19, 2005 California Volksfront Nor-Cal show Northern California white power concert organized by Volksfront, a neo-****/skinhead group Note: Scheduled bands include Three on the Tree, Intimidation One and Frontline Saturday, March 19, 2005 Smackover, Arkansas Klan rally and cross lighting Sponsored by the Bayou Knights of the Ku Klux Klan Saturday, March 19, 2005 - Sunday, March 20, 2005 Dawson Springs, Kentucky Klan gathering Sponsored by the Imperial Klans of America (IKA) Saturday, March 19, 2005 Florida St. Patrick's Day Show White power concert organized by Confederate Hammerskins, a racist skinhead group Friday, March 25, 2005 - Sunday, March 27, 2005 Valley Forge, Pennsylvania Bible Conference Organized by Stone Kingdom Ministries, an organization whose followers practice Christian Identity, a racist and anti-Semitic religion Note: Scheduled speakers include Dave Barley, James Bruggeman, Doug Evers, Stephen Jones, Warwick Potts, Rob Corry Saturday, April 02, 2005 - Sunday, April 03, 2005 Tombstone, Arizona Border Protest and Patrol In conjunction with the month-long Minuteman Project, an effort to block entry of illegal aliens across the U.S. border, sponsored by Civil Homeland Defense, a militia group Friday, April 15, 2005 Tombstone, Arizona Border Protest and Patrol In conjunction with the month-long Minuteman Project, an effort to block entry of illegal aliens across the U.S. border, sponsored by Civil Homeland Defense, a militia group Saturday, April 16, 2005 Osceola, Indiana Hitler/Larsen Birthday Party Organized by Church of the National Knights of the Ku Klux Klan Saturday, April 23, 2005 Detroit, Michigan 6th Annual Hitler's Birthday Bash White power concert sponsoring white power bands including Max Resist and Final War. Saturday, April 23, 2005 Hobe Sound, Florida 4th Annual Folk Fest Folk festival featuring Euro-ethnic music, food and drink, sponsored by the publishers of the white supremacist newsletter Nordwave Friday, May 27, 2005 - Sunday, May 29, 2005 Harrison, Arkansas Patriots Spring Conference Sponsored by Church of Jesus Christ, which is connected to the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan Friday, May 27, 2005 - Sunday, May 29, 2005 Branson, Missouri Memorial Day Weekend gathering Sponsored by Scriptures for America, a racist and anti-Semitic Christian Identity organization Saturday, May 28, 2005 - Monday, May 30, 2005 New Orleans, Louisiana New Orleans Conference 2005 Organized by white supremacist and former Klansman David Duke with his European American Unity & Rights Organization Friday, June 10, 2005 - Sunday, June 12, 2005 Henderson, Tennessee White Unity Gathering Organized by the Brotherhood of Klans, Ku Klux Klan Saturday, June 11, 2005 Buffalo, New York Dump Israel/Remember the USS Liberty Rally Rally at Niagara Square sponsored by the Racial Nationalist Party of America Saturday, June 25, 2005 Yorktown, Virginia White Unity Rally Gathering sponsored by neo-**** National Socialist Movement (NSM) Friday, July 01, 2005 - Sunday, July 03, 2005 Sandpoint, Idaho Summer Conference Description: Organized by America's Promise Ministries, an organization whose followers practice Christian Identity, a racist and anti-Semitic religion Note: Scheduled speakers include Dave Barley, James Bruggeman, and Warwick Potts Saturday, July 02, 2005 - Monday, July 04, 2005 Idaho White Unity Gathering Organized by neo-**** National Socialist Movement (NSM)
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Saturday, March 19, 2005
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Volksfront Nor-Cal show
Northern California white power concert organized by Volksfront, a neo-****/skinhead group
Note: Scheduled bands include Three on the Tree, Intimidation One and Frontline
California
Volksfront Nor-Cal show
Northern California white power concert organized by Volksfront, a neo-****/skinhead group
Note: Scheduled bands include Three on the Tree, Intimidation One and Frontline
The trouble with picking a fight with one ****, you gotta be willing to take on the whole pack.
That's something my 1/4th Hebrew *** isn't willing to do.
BTW, Last time I attended an anti-klan/**** rally, I got to throw rocks at brown shirts.
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Originally Posted by gpatmac
Don't get me wrong. I've got nothing against hate and violence. I just can't stand it when it's built out of generalism and ignorance.
I know that the klan, et al. are ALL worth a good beat-down, therefore I'm not generalizing, huh?
I know that the klan, et al. are ALL worth a good beat-down, therefore I'm not generalizing, huh?
There are many real "hate" groups operating in this country, but they keep their true agendas hidden. The ACLU comes to mind. In a society where it's ok to have any ethnic club, unless you're white that is, what does that say about anti-white hatred? Ever heard about a scholarship only for white males? Me neither.
If a white man kills a homosexual or person of another race, it's a hate crime. Funny, it's not a hate crime the other way around.
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Well, not to take away from your point that ignorance and hatred is wrong, but at least they don't hide their positions. I see nothing wrong with SOME of their positions, too, such as stopping illegal immigration. Heck, I WAS for slowing legal immigration until I realized how our economy depends upon LEGAL immigrants.
There are many real "hate" groups operating in this country, but they keep their true agendas hidden. The ACLU comes to mind. In a society where it's ok to have any ethnic club, unless you're white that is, what does that say about anti-white hatred? Ever heard about a scholarship only for white males? Me neither.
If a white man kills a homosexual or person of another race, it's a hate crime. Funny, it's not a hate crime the other way around.
There are many real "hate" groups operating in this country, but they keep their true agendas hidden. The ACLU comes to mind. In a society where it's ok to have any ethnic club, unless you're white that is, what does that say about anti-white hatred? Ever heard about a scholarship only for white males? Me neither.
If a white man kills a homosexual or person of another race, it's a hate crime. Funny, it's not a hate crime the other way around.
I can't pat a guy on the back because he's unafraid of letting everyone know all about his bile and the lengths he's willing to go to eradicate that which he is skeered of.
You're last statement is a good attempt at taking a standard polemic tactic and inserting illogical assertions.
I'm not disagreeing with your point, just isolating your argument's flaws. Point a) How many fairy bullies have you ever met or heard of? Point b) Many bigots have a known agenda and motive for wanting to hurt or kill those they are bigoted towards. A homo's only known objectives are to plug each other and be controversial. Should a hate crime have an associated agenda and motive? What plausible agenda and motive would a queer have for wanting to hang a white man?
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Originally Posted by gpatmac
I can't pat a guy on the back because he's unafraid of letting everyone know all about his bile and the lengths he's willing to go to eradicate that which he is skeered of.
Originally Posted by gpatmac
You're last statement is a good attempt at taking a standard polemic tactic and inserting illogical assertions.
Originally Posted by gpatmac
I'm not disagreeing with your point, just isolating your argument's flaws. Point a) How many fairy bullies have you ever met or heard of? Point b) Many bigots have a known agenda and motive for wanting to hurt or kill those they are bigoted towards.
Originally Posted by gpatmac
A homo's only known objectives are to plug each other and be controversial. Should a hate crime have an associated agenda and motive? What plausible agenda and motive would a queer have for wanting to hang a white man?
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Well, not to take away from your point that ignorance and hatred is wrong, but at least they don't hide their positions. I see nothing wrong with SOME of their positions, too, such as stopping illegal immigration. Heck, I WAS for slowing legal immigration until I realized how our economy depends upon LEGAL immigrants.
There are many real "hate" groups operating in this country, but they keep their true agendas hidden. The ACLU comes to mind. In a society where it's ok to have any ethnic club, unless you're white that is, what does that say about anti-white hatred? Ever heard about a scholarship only for white males? Me neither.
If a white man kills a homosexual or person of another race, it's a hate crime. Funny, it's not a hate crime the other way around.
There are many real "hate" groups operating in this country, but they keep their true agendas hidden. The ACLU comes to mind. In a society where it's ok to have any ethnic club, unless you're white that is, what does that say about anti-white hatred? Ever heard about a scholarship only for white males? Me neither.
If a white man kills a homosexual or person of another race, it's a hate crime. Funny, it's not a hate crime the other way around.
Sorry I couldn't help it. I have been waiting to use this Billy Madison statement for a while now. :banana:
BTW like 4 of these events are in Michigan...WTF is up with that????
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
You said it better than I could. Murder is a crime of hate, no matter what race or gender you are. The whole notion of a "hate" crime is a crock. Not to get too far off the subject, but it makes me think of people who murder and "get off" on insanity pleas. Wouldn't you have to be freaking crazy to kill someone? Anyway.....
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
I can't remember the last time a white guy tied another white guy to the back of a truck and dragged his *** around town until he died, ala James Bird. Or when a black guy tied another black guy to a fence and beat him to within an inch of his life and then left him tied to that fence in near freezing temperatures for more than 12 hours like Mathew Shepherd in Wyoming. To me those are hate crimes. Those people were killed soley based on their race or sexual preference. That is a hate crime.
So are you honestly telling me that whites don't have "hate crimes" committed against them? OH no!!! Sorry...can't happen... not to whitey!
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
The reason you "can't remember" is because crap like that happens every day in the U.S., and it's only newsworthy when it happens to a black or gay person. Did you hear about the "white" SF officer gunned down by a minority recently? The DA didn't even seek the death penalty.
The reason I don't remember any of that ever happening is because I highly doubt a white guy has ever been tied to the back of a truck by a black guy and drug around town. And I definately can't remember a bunch of gay guys tying up a straight guy and beating him dead becuase he was straight.
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So are you honestly telling me that whites don't have "hate crimes" committed against them? OH no!!! Sorry...can't happen... not to whitey
You always do this Hella. You always have to turn it into a whitey vs. [insert various minorities here] issue and you are missing the point. I'm saying that hate crimes are out there and they are different from other crimes against a person. The reason they are different is because they are committed against the person because of their ethnic background or sexual preference and thats it. If a white person gets robbed by a hispanic person and killed it isn't a hate crime although one could argue that there is an aspect of hate involved it is not the sole reason for the crime.
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
You always have to turn it into a whitey vs. [insert various minorities here] issue and you are missing the point.
If you can admit that, do you actually think that "whites" as a whole hold more hatred than other ethnicities? How is this not a "whitey vs. x" discussion?
Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
The reason they (hate crimes) are different is because they are committed against the person because of their ethnic background or sexual preference and thats it.
Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
If a white person gets robbed by a hispanic person and killed it isn't a hate crime although one could argue that there is an aspect of hate involved it is not the sole reason for the crime.
How are people supposed to feel equal and part of a great brotherhood of man, when there is such inequality in the law and the protection of separate "classes" of men? I think this in itself is a greater catalyst for "hate" groups than anything else.