Yes you are if you believe that since not all religions are MAIN stream. And thats what you are missing here.

He is in some satanic religion last I talked to him. (What don't tell me you never heard of satanic religions? Or do you not concider that religion?) He switches around a lot but one of the ones he was in allowed abortions. It's justified by looking at it as a bunch of cells not a human being. Or in other words in a scientific manner! Shocker there!

Um no. You made that statement hence its your issue to prove right not mine. Pluss I don't want to do the research for you. Since maybe you'll learn something along the way. And for you to tell me I would deny things because it goes against my beliefs is hypocrisy at its worst.

Yes your religion could be to shape society. But society as a whole in this MODERN era does not have to take the shape of YOUR religion. And thats whats GREAT about our constitution. Our constitution protects EVERYONES right to have their OWN beliefs and their OWN morals. As long as they don't hurt others they are fine. And, I believe our constitution is doing an AWESOME job protecting people to have a choice whether to have a abortion or not. Maybe instead of saying the constitution is failing us, you should look inside yourself first and see why you fail.

What you can't read simple english? Or just don't want to admit that when dealing with humans nothing can be 100% sure for everyone since, heres the big shocker, everyone has a different body than the rest! Hence while something might be true for one person something may change and no longer hold true! This isn't rocket science.


WRONG. Dead wrong. I'll give you one example off the top of my head. GAYS would hate it. Yep im sure gays would love living in your world. Or better yet "non-believers" that believe in pre-martial sex, abortions, drinking, smoking, and the list goes on and on. How could you even say such a comment like this? What drug are you on seriously?

I figured it out you're on crack! You have to be, jesus christ almighty, go pick up a history book and then come back to me that religion doesn't force itself on other religions. Thats just pathetic!

What a bunch of a assumptions you are making here. I know several girls that had abortions and I DATED one that had one. And none of them are living with that "dilemma". Its pretty simple actually it wasn't a kid yet it was a bunch of cells. And get this several of those girls are atheist and then some are even CHRISTIANS! And all from last I heard are doing very well. How many woman do you know that have had abortions?

Wait I was wrong you're not on crack your on L.S.D. Where do you come up with this stuff? Who feeds you this bull****? What religion are you? None of the girls I know are "evil-people". One is married and raising a family and has a daughter. Another is in med school right now going to be a doctor soon. Another is getting a Masters in one of the best schools in the nation. Another is a nurse, and we all know nurses are "evil-people". And I could go on. You need to open up your mind and your eyes. Someone is lying to you about the world. Seriously, I pitty you. Also if you think people shouldn't have abortions I suggest you start adopting every child that was not aborted but the mother couldn't support it, in your city. Why not put your money where your mouth is. So sad to see that people like you are still alive, in a country that is so educated.

 

That's the sad part, we're not that educated anymore. And we have some conservatives saying all college is good for is to brainwash good people into being liberal. And some religious people saying that the future is irrelevent because the rapture is coming. And they use these viewpoints to vote for policy. So my guess is that our education system will get much worse before it gets any better.

 

Amen to that brother!

[sarcasm]I can't see how with all the money we spend on education in this country![/sarcasm]

 

never mind

 

After re-reading this whole thread (yeah, it took me a while), I've concluded that there is no such thing as anti-abortion logic. Only anti-abortion feelings, sentiments, and 'reasons' for being anti-abortion that have to do with a higher power. Logic, no matter who is using it, says that abortions make sense in some circumstances and therefore they should be optional for everybody. If you are one who disagrees with abortions on a spiritual or emotional level, don't have one. There, now everyone should be happy.

 

Man, what planet are you on? Substitute the word "murder" for "abortion" throughout your paragraph, and the same non-sensical, moronic conclusion still holds! Brilliant!

Tell me you posted that after coming home from the bars or something...

 

Murder does not equal abortion....

 

There are a lot of logical reasons to not murder that don't have to do with a higher power. The only reasons anyone has brought up against abortion have to do with a higher power.
If murder=abortion, and murder is always wrong, then how can war be justified by a religious person. It can't. But religious people support wars anyway. If abortion is always wrong, wars are always wrong. Since it is clear that wars are not always wrong, then abortions are not always wrong either.

 

Well, I think you make a compelling argument proving that anti-war, pro-abortionists are two-faced flip-floppers. Well stated.

 

Anti-abortion, pro-warists are much moreso. That's my argument. But you are correct, both sides are completely hypocritical when it comes to the issue of justifying murder.

The pertinant argument, however, is this. Wars will happen, and most of them will be justified in the minds of those involved. That means that people are justifying murder for political/nationalistic gain. That means that even if you believe abortions are murder(which many people don't), there are times when murder is justified. If there are times when murder is justified, then abortions can be justified by the same people who justify war. So if you believe that there are good reasons to go to war, then you are hypcritical and blind if you simultaniously believe that there is never a good reason for an abortion.

 

What I love is bush being a pro-lifer but frying every single person he could during his governorship in Texas. Even a mentally challenged individual, just off.

 

I love it too. The life of an innocent child is worth a lot more than that of a murderer, mentally challenged or not.

 

How do you put certain value on life for one individuals against anothers?

 

life has different stages. Not having (arms, legs, …. Etc), is an idea that can easily be diminished when we all recalled that we’re going to decay into dust, in a different kind of “life” –here, not diminishing the idea that BOTH of them are life-stages. Life-aspects are not the same throughout one’s –so called – life; they vary a lot; one might not lose an arm, but he\she loses nervous cells all the time, women lose their fertility by time, and ones’ mental activity is not the same all the time throughout ones’ life. So, due to the “LOGIC” I experienced it this forum, I think, “logically” the “constitutional” range of rights should vary in parallel! –shouldn’t it!!

 

Two different things!- abortion, and war. War\killing can be justified when the “other side” behaves in a manner, that is harmful to a country’s land, or ones’ life. Abortion is not the same; you simply don’t have enough “prosecution” against that fetus to justify killing it –“constitutionally” speaking!

Have you ever been a practicing religious individual through your life-time so far?! –you see, this is the only notion, for me, that would make me think of you as “eligible” to claim that there is hypocrisy inherited in, only, the religion that you’re practicing. Otherwise, you’re not eligible for such a claimer!