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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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This is very true. Am I supposed to be insulted?
Maybe it was just a "fun fact of the day" type of statement.
Old Aug 13, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Here's how I see it? Tell me how closed minded I am when I'm done.

A building that was planned in the early '60s was built. Many of the products we exclude from building projects today were used in the construction of these towers. WHy do we exclude these? They're F'n harmful!!! One day a few dudes get bored and decide to fly a perfectly good plane into a couple of perfectly good buildings. Undisturbed, these building would have stood the test of time. Stir them up a bit, different story... What they became when they were turned into a pile of rubble; who knows. What I do know is the combination of incinerated materials, carcinogens, chemicals, etc. was not, could not, nor will it ever be "safe". Common sense tells me this. No gov't organization would ever be able to convince me otherwise.
I'm not surprised the EPA misguided the sheep. I'm surprised the sheep followed the EPA. See I like to think for myself. Turning to the gov for answers, I think not.
SO I guess technically, yes, I am closed minded. I'm trying to figure out why that's a bad thing.
Old Aug 13, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by VRT MBasile
can we please get the thread title changed to "OMG, the Bush Administration Lied!" With as many misspellings as possible please.
Now now let's be fair. "The government lies" is much more appropriate.
Old Aug 13, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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Ok, so the government made the mistake of saying something wrong. Where is the compensation for all the guys who are our heroes and now suffering from all kinds of lung problems? They should be getting the correct health care either way. Even if the EPA didn't FLAT OUT LIE, these guys who were at ground zero within around the 2 weeks were risking their lives to dig out anyone else that could be alive.

Yet only a handful have gotten hooked up, and many are dying or have died or their length of their life dramatically decreased to within the next few years. Why isn't EVERYONE getting the best healthcare? Aren't we supposed to take care of our cops and firefighters? This never made any sense to me.



Screw you Christie Whitman! Make sure everyone is safe? How about the other 50,000 who have gotten sick and are dying off!
Old Aug 13, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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I'm no expert, and I know that it's not a good idea to breath in demolished building dust. Any dust for that matter. This is not rocket science here
Old Aug 13, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Kinda show how incompetent our white house is along with the EPA. I still don't know how they can get away with this stuff. The least they could have done was have some air tanks for people working in ground zero. You don't say to the public it's safe.

Most people we know are sheep anywho. They take governments word for it.
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by VRT MBasile
did you mean "mislead the public?"

At least our socialized education system is working!

Seriously though, throughout your entire politically-aware life, you thought the government was being honest?
Actually, "Another government program misled the public" is grammatically correct. Led = past tense of lead.
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ipozestu
This is very true. Am I supposed to be insulted?
Simply an observation. If you have no desire for personal growth or improvement, please continue as you always have.
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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Growth??? Dude I used to be a peace love dope hippy kid. Make love not war all that F'n jazz. I have grown and continue to grow.
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ipozestu
Growth??? Dude I used to be a peace love dope hippy kid. Make love not war all that F'n jazz. I have grown and continue to grow.
I should have been more clear: switching from one extreme to the next is not the kind of growth I was referring to. As I indicated, personal improvement is an integral part of the growth process. Closing yourself off to alternate views or opinions is shutting yourself off to the possibility of personal evolution and condemning you to ignorance.

Since someone else already quoted him, I'll do it again: "There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance." -- Socrates
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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I guess I'm ignorant and closed minded. Did you try to take me on as an extra credit project or something?
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ipozestu
I guess I'm ignorant and closed minded. Did you try to take me on as an extra credit project or something?
I didn't say you were ignorant, but you are pretty obviously closed-minded.

And no, I didn't -- but clearly I misread you. I expected something different of someone who displays your level of intellect.
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by saqwarrior
I didn't say you were ignorant, but you are pretty obviously closed-minded.

And no, I didn't -- but clearly I misread you. I expected something different of someone who displays your level of intellect.
Isn't it "misred"?
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by saqwarrior
I didn't say you were ignorant, but you are pretty obviously closed-minded.
Call it any vegetable. You have in fact insinuated that I'm am ignorant. That's cool.
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And no, I didn't -- but clearly I misread you. I expected something different of someone who displays your level of intellect.
What are we talking about again?
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by saqwarrior

Since someone else already quoted him, I'll do it again: "There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance." -- Socrates
Seeing as how I just saw G.I. Joe last night. "Knowing is" only "half the battle"

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