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Old 09-02-2005, 08:42 AM
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The aclu must be foaming at the mouth right now!

Law suits galore... can you imagine how many frivilous lawsuits and class actions are going to be filed when this is all over? The aclu must be jumping for joy.

My goodness, Johnny Cochran must be grinning from heaven. If the ride is fly, YOU MUST BUY!
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"I was singled out because I was a Black man trying to make ends." No, you were singled out because you were holding a 32" plasma screen while your homeboys looked for medication to make speed with.

I wonder how I would react in this situation. We're talking about people that lived from pay check to pay check that now have nothing. Their accounts are overdrawn and they have mouths to feed. But I never think using all your energy to steal valuable merchandise and drugs from hospitals and medics is the answer. You think there's a market for that crap in a time like this? What are you going to do? Are you going to hold it above your head for a few weeks and hope it doesn't get wet? It's just sickening... And now that the NG is actually in the city and putting their foot down we’ll never hear the end to it from those that always carry the double-edged sword.

What really makes me mad is that people knew New Orleans was as southern Detroit regarding crime. It was one of the worst or possibly the worst crime areas in the USA. Did they think that everything would fix itself? Like 9/11, did they think everyone would unite in the effort. During 9/11 everyone united because we fell victim to an unconventional attack. How could that happen to the United States? But with this situation all we had was Katrina slowly coming at us. Not impressed in the slightest. I'm actually embarrassed.
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dont think the aclu will touch a single case where someone was robbing a store..

dont know why you latch on to this image that the aclu is some form of satan, well besides your clinging onto of propaganda to form your entire world view.

here is a hint

Take the ****ing blidners off and think for your ****ing self once. Dont buy into the hype, hatred, ignorance, and bigotry that you so fondly cling to.

nm you are a lost cause, and i forget the world needs people like you to do the bidding of the elite. With out that societal control in place we would decend into anarchy.. oh wait nm we are on that path.
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
dont know why you latch on to this image that the aclu is some form of satan.
Oh please, Dre. The ACLU has become a public mockery of the worst kind.
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The ACLU has already defended Satan
http://brian.carnell.com/archives/ye...01/000034.html
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honestly though...what have satanist ever done to harm society? Think in facts. Who's to say who's right and wrong....satanists are just as flawed as 'religious' folk...they all subscribe to a magazine called 'Exactly What I Want To Be The Truth That is Slightly Beyond What Science Can Explain'......hahahahahahaha....
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Originally Posted by Salty
Oh please, Dre. The ACLU has become a public mockery of the worst kind.

no worse then any other large institution in the us.. hell at least their roots and origion are much more uplasting then most...

**** they ahve done a ****load of good in this world, there will allways be corruption, idiots, ****ers, etc.

Look at bush and his cronies, they dont represent even the parties agenda...
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Where is the ACLU now!!??
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Prayer in public school?

No problem, if you’re a Muslim:

CLIFFSIDE PARK, New Jersey (AP) — Yasmeen Elsamra had a simple request: While her classmates were eating lunch, she wanted to go off by herself for a few moments to pray.

The 14-year-old was told she couldn’t, and went home distraught that afternoon in October 2003. Praying five times a day is a cornerstone of her Muslim faith.

“If I wasn’t allowed to pray my second prayer at school, I couldn’t do it at home,” she said. “When school finishes, the third prayer begins.”

Her family contacted a Muslim advocacy group, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which asked the school district to reconsider. Eventually, the district acknowledged it had no policy preventing a student from praying on his or her own during free time, and allowed Yasmeen to use an empty classroom to unfurl her prayer rug, face Mecca and touch her head to the floor in a few moments of worship.

Her case was part of a nationwide grassroots effort by Muslim parents to make public schools more friendly and accommodating to Muslim students. The movement has gained strength since the September 11, 2001, terror attacks.
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not sure I follow. Should she not have the right to do this?
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The prayer in school issue is about organized praying during class time. This little girl just wants to go pray by herself in the corner during lunch time. Anyone in any school can pray in the corner during lunch time, no matter what the religion. That was never an issue.



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Eventually, the district acknowledged it had no policy preventing a student from praying on his or her own during free time.

Enough said.


BTW, where is the ACLU even mentioned in this article???

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Ruth Ginsberg used to work for ACLU.
Why is it that the ACLU won't take a 2nd Amendment case?
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Good question...my guess is that they know that people who own guns are very well represented in our gov't already by the NRA.
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you know what i find funny as hell?

IN the spy museum in DC the ACLU is center stage when talking about domestic terror (racisim).. maybe if you did a bit of research on that age and time you would see how the aclu's roots were established and how they are not this spawn of satan that you callow ****s want it to be.

Not to say its a perfect institution but have some ****ing respect for what it has done for our country, society, and the world at large.

Same is true for many orginizations including both political parties..
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Co-founder Roger Baldwin stated, "I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."

Named as a key member of the Open Borders Lobby in the pamphlet The Open Borders Lobby and the Nation's Security After 9/11, written by William Hawkins and Erin Anderson

Defends Palestinian Islamic Jihad leader and funder Sami Al-Arian

Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin reports
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45853
that according to "astonished" U.S. military sources, the Pentagon recently permitted ACLU lawyers to sit in on interrogations of the al Qaeda and Taliban enemy combatants being held in Guantanamo; in the majority of cases, these attorneys advised the prisoners that they were under no obligation to answer military interrogators' questions. Says one exasperated military source, "It's as if they [the detainees] were [merely] shoplifters in the U.S. The lawyers may have left by now, but the damage is done. We're sending guys [attorneys] down to interrogate on [the] taxpayer's dime for absolutely no reason now."

According to the G2 Bulletin, this development is part of the Pentagon's recent bid to brighten the dark image that the ACLU, in its quest to discredit America's anti-terrorism measures, has painted of Guantanamo Bay. Seeking to mollify critics, the Pentagon has begun phasing out the use of Army interrogators in Guantanamo and replacing them with some from the Navy.

The Pentagon has also appointed Marine Corps Col. Dwight Sullivan, who spent six years working for the ACLU, to be chief defense counsel for the military tribunals at Guantanamo. When Sullivan was named to this post last month, ACLU executive director Anthony Romero had these kind words to say about him: "Dwight Sullivan will bring renewed energy to the defense team at a critical time in the proceedings. He uniquely possesses substantial knowledge of military law and deep commitment to civil liberties."

Exactly who are the individuals whose civil liberties Sullivan will be safeguarding so vigorously? Thus far, four defendants are slated to stand before military tribunals: (a) David Hicks (a.k.a. Mohammed Dawood), an Australian-born member of Lashkar-I-Taiba, an al Qaeda-affiliated group of Kashmiri terrorists headquartered in Pakistan. The organization's goal is to wrest control of Kashmir from India via terrorist acts directed against both military and civilian targets. After the 9/11 attacks, Hicks was in the area of Kandahar, Afghanistan, where he was captured in December 2001 and charged with having fought alonside the Taliban against American and Northern Alliance forces; (b) Salim Hamdan, who managed to find work as Osama bin Laden's driver and bodyguard, and who was captured in Afghanistan in late 2001; (c) Ali Hamza al-Bahlul, a key al Qaeda propagandist and also a bin Laden bodyguard, who produced recruitment and motivational videos for the organization; these videos glorified the murder of Americans; and (d) Ibrahim al-Qosi, a Sudanese accountant who served variously as a cook, driver, and bodyguard for bin Laden, and who helped funnel money to al Qaeda for explosives and weapons.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) characterizes itself as America's "guardian of liberty," ostensibly working to "defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States." "We work," says the ACLU, "also to extend rights to segments of our population that have traditionally been denied their rights, including Native Americans and other people of color; lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and transgendered people; women; mental-health patients; prisoners; people with disabilities; and the poor."

The ACLU was established in 1920. Its co-founder Roger Baldwin candidly stated, "I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately, for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. It all sums up into one single purpose -- the abolition of dog-eat-dog under which we live. I don't regret being part of the communist tactic. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the communists wanted and I traveled the United Front road to get it."

As of early 2004, the ACLU had nearly 400,000 members and supporters. The organization handles nearly 6,000 court cases annually from its offices in almost every state. During the twenty months following September 11, 2001, its membership rolls swelled by some 55,000 - largely in response to its attacks on the Bush administration for allegedly trampling on the civil liberties of citizens and non-citizens alike.

In practice, the ACLU is part of the "legal left" and works in concert with radical, anti-capitalist, anti-American organizations like the National Lawyers Guild and the Center for Constitutional Rights to hack away at the fabric of the American constitutional framework.

The ACLU has worked with terrorists like Sami al-Arian, the North American head of Palestinian Islamic Jihad, to undermine the security protections put in place by both the Clinton and Bush Administrations in the wake of terrorist attacks. Since 9/11, the ACLU has led a coalition of "civil liberties" groups to promote non-cooperation with the Department of Homeland Security in implementing the provisions of the Patriot Act. More than 300 municipalities and several states have adopted the ACLU resolution of non-cooperation. "Under the new Ashcroft guidelines," reads an ACLU press release, "the FBI can freely infiltrate mosques, churches and synagogues, and other houses of worship, listen in on online chat rooms, and read message boards, even if it has no evidence that a crime might be committed." The ACLU refuses to recognize that mosques, for example, have been prime recruiting sites for terrorist organizations.

When the INS and Justice Department instituted a program requiring males visiting the U.S. from Arab and Muslim nations to register with the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services, the ACLU organized protests against what it called this "discriminatory" policy. It similarly protested an FBI anti-terrorism initiative to count and document every mosque in America. On the eve of Operation Iraqi Freedom in March 2003, when FBI and Homeland Security agents were tracking down illegal Iraqi immigrants considered to be dangerous, the ACLU set up a telephone hotline and conducted "Know Your Rights" training sessions giving illegals free advice on how to avoid deportation. And, in a 2002 federal lawsuit naming Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta as a defendant, the ACLU challenged a new Aviation Transportation Security Act policy prohibiting non-citizens from working as airport security screeners.

In conjunction with the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) -- a Hamas spinoff, several of whose leaders have been indicted for and convicted of terrorist activities, the ACLU has lobbied hard against heightened scrutiny for passengers from terrorist countries at airports and border checkpoints. "Profiles are notoriously under-inclusive," says ACLU legislative counsel Gregory Nojeim. "Who knows who the next terrorist will appear as? It could be a grandmother. It could be a student. We just don't know." The ACLU also opposes the Computer-Assisted Passenger Profiling System (CAPPS) used by airlines to check for various passenger characteristics that have historically been correlated with terrorist motives - red flags such as passengers who purchase one-way, rather than round-trip tickets; who buy tickets with cash rather than with a credit card; who are infrequent, rather than regular, fliers; and who do not purchase their tickets far in advance of their trips. In late 1997, when the CAPPS system was first set to be put in place, the ACLU set up a special online complaint form to collect information on incidents of discrimination and mistreatment by airport security personnel. As Gregory Nojeim explained, his organization was "concerned that the CAPPS system will have an unequal impact on some passengers, resulting in their being selected for treatment as potential terrorists based on their race, religion or national origin."

To prevent heightened scrutiny of passengers with potentially terrorist profiles, the ACLU has represented many Muslim plaintiffs in discrimination lawsuits against the airline industry. In June 2002, for example, it filed suits on behalf of five men of Middle Eastern and Asian extraction - each of whom airline security agents had escorted off their scheduled flights for various security-related concerns between October and December 2001. "In ejecting our clients from their flights, the airlines were indulging in discrimination, not enforcing security, and that is both shameful and unlawful," said ACLU staff attorney Reginald Shuford.

The Texas chapter of the ACLU was a signatory to a February 20, 2002 document, composed by the radical group Refuse & Resist, condemning military tribunals and the detention of immigrants apprehended in connection with post-9/11 terrorism investigations. Titled "National Day of Solidarity with Muslim, Arab and South Asian Immigrants," the document read, in part, "[T]hey [the U.S. government] are coming for the Arab, Muslim and South Asian immigrants. Based on their racial profile, over 1500 have been rounded up and the government refuses to say who they are, where they are jailed and what the charges are!!! Already, a Pakistani man has died in custody. Who will be next? The recent 'disappearances,' indefinite detention, the round-ups, the secret military tribunals, the denial of legal representation, evidence kept a secret from the accused, the denial of any due process for Arab, Muslim, South Asians and others, have chilling similarities to a police state. We will not allow our grief for the tragedy of September 11 to be used to justify this new repression. We are clear that being an immigrant is not a crime; Muslims, Arabs and South Asians are not terrorists."

On many occasions, the ACLU has publicly and proactively defended individuals accused of serious terrorism-related offenses. In 2003, for example, it held rallies on behalf of an Intel software engineer in Oregon named Maher Mofeid Hawash, whom U.S. officials were keeping in custody on suspicion that he had given material support to Taliban and al Qaeda forces fighting American troops in Afghanistan. In February 2004, Hawash was convicted of the aforementioned crimes and was sentenced to seven years in prison. The ACLU also came to the defense of the aforementioned Professor Sami Al-Arian. In an effort to thwart the government's investigation of Al-Arian's role in funding PIJ suicide bombings in Israel, the ACLU said that the search warrants authorizing an FBI raid of his home and offices were overly broad, and that the items seized as evidence should therefore be returned.

The ACLU's Immigration Task Force is a driving force behind the Open Borders Lobby. Among its current projects are: expanding anti-discrimination laws to require employers to hire illegal aliens; weakening sanctions against employers who hire illegal aliens; barring the INS from conducting inspections without a search warrant; requiring the INS to provide free legal counsel to illegal aliens; and ensuring illegal aliens' eligibility for welfare benefits. The ACLU has opposed all Justice Department proposals to fingerprint and track immigrants and foreign visitors to the United States, claiming that such measures "treat immigrant populations as a separate and quasi-criminal element of society." The ACLU also opposes a Justice Department initiative that would give local and state police the power to enforce immigration laws. "Local police should not be in the business of detaining or arresting law-abiding aliens based on their immigration status," says Howard Simon, executive director of the ACLU of Florida.


The ACLU endorsed the 2002 Market Workers Justice Campaign of the activist coalition Communities in Solidarity with Immigrant Workers. This campaign called for increased wages and benefits for Korean and Latino immigrant workers, including those living illegally in the United States.

Former ACLU executive director Ira Glasser attributes the concerns that many Americans have about illegal immigration to a "wave of anti-immigrant hysteria." According to the essay "Justice For Aliens" by Steven Shapiro of the New York Civil Liberties Union and Wade Henderson of the ACLU's D.C. office, the desire to limit immigration can be traced directly to "hostility motivated by nativism, racism, and red scare."

"Church and state" issues have been a recurring theme on the ACLU docket over the years. In April 1997 the ACLU of Illinois filed a federal lawsuit challenging the City of Chicago's operation of scout troops affiliated with the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) - on grounds that the Scouts excluded participants based on religious belief and sexual orientation. The suit was filed on behalf of a Methodist minister objecting to what he viewed as the City's implied endorsement of a particular religion - because of its affiliation with the BSA, whose members are required to profess their belief in God. The co-plaintiff in the suit was a gay agnostic objecting to having been turned down as an adult leader in one of the City's scouting programs. "The City of Chicago should not be in the business of discriminating," said Roger Leishman, director of the Illinois ACLU's Gay & Lesbian Rights Project.

In 2000 the ACLU sued to prevent the BSA from continuing to conduct operations in Balboa Park, a plot of public land in San Diego. Asserting that the BSA is a religious organization, the ACLU deemed its presence in the park a violation of "separation of church and state" requirements. The ACLU won this case, the settlement of which required the city of San Diego to pay the ACLU nearly $1 million in court costs and attorney fees.

Consistent with its belief that the U.S. is a nation infested with racism and injustice - particularly in the criminal-justice system - the ACLU of Southern California endorsed an October 22, 2002 National Day of Protest exhorting Americans to rise up and "Stop Police Brutality, Repression and the Criminalization of a Generation." The document announcing this event stated: "Since September 11, 2001, the authorities have rapidly imposed a resoundingly repressive atmosphere. Law enforcement on both the local and national level has been given broad new powers. Laws and policies that drastically restrict civil liberties have been put into place. . . . we cannot and must not allow the authorities to get away with using September 11th to let cops who brutalize and kill people go free. . . . All over the U.S. people are being killed by law enforcement officers at an escalating rate. . . . In city after city, cops viciously beat people, confident that they will face no punishment. . . . The authorities have used the post-September 11th atmosphere to exonerate cops convicted of brutalizing people and to continue to allow cops who brutalize and kill to get off either completely free or with a wink and slap on the wrist. . . . Racial profiling, which had been widely exposed and discredited through people's struggles, has now come back with a vengeance. . . . Since September 11th thousands of Muslims, Arabs and South Asians have been rounded up, detained and disappeared. . . . Hard-won civil liberties and protections have been stripped away as part of the government's 'war on terrorism.' The USA-PATRIOT Act brings in a new set of repressive laws and restrictions on people and grants even greater power to law enforcement agents of all kinds." Moreover, this document explicitly defended terrorists and murderers such as Lynne Stewart, Jose Padilla, Mumia Abu-Jamal, and Leonard Peltier - depicting them as persecuted political prisoners of a repressive American government.

The ACLU was a signatory to a March 17, 2003 letter exhorting members of the U.S. Congress "to oppose the Domestic Security Enhancement Act (DSEA), also known as 'Patriot [Act] II,'" which was then under consideration. These signatories stated that the new legislation "fail[ed] to respect our time-honored liberties," and "contain[ed] a multitude of new and sweeping law enforcement and intelligence gathering powers . . . that would severely dilute, if not undermine, many basic constitutional rights." In addition, the ACLU has given its organizational endorsement to the Community Resolution to Protect Civil Liberties campaign, a project of the California-based Coalition for Civil Liberties (CCL). The CLL tries to influence city councils to pass resolutions creating Civil Liberties Safe Zones; that is, to be non-compliant with the provisions of the Patriot Act.

The ACLU also endorsed the Civil Liberties Restoration Act (CLRA) of 2004, which was introduced by Democratic Senators Ted Kennedy, Patrick Leahy, Russell Feingold, Richard Durbin, and Jon Corzine, and Democratic Representatives Howard Berman and William Delahunt. The CLRA was designed to roll back, in the name of protecting civil liberties, vital national-security policies that had been adopted after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

The ACLU was an Organizer of the April 25, 2004 "March for Women's Lives" held in Washington, D.C., a rally that drew more than a million demonstrators advocating that women be granted unrestricted access to taxpayer-funded abortions at any stage of pregnancy.

The ACLU has received funding from the Open Society Institute, the Arca Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the Columbia Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the JEHT Foundation, the Joyce Foundation, the Lear Family Foundation, the Public Welfare Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, and the Woods Fund of Chicago.
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History and notable cases

The ACLU was formed in 1920 as the National Civil Liberties Bureau (NCLB). Founders include Crystal Eastman and Roger Nash Baldwin.

In the year of its formation, the ACLU took the side of aliens threatened with deportation by U.S. Attorney General Alexander Mitchell Palmer for their assumedly socialist political views (see Palmer Raids). It also opposed attacks on the rights of the Industrial Workers of the World and other labor unions to meet and organize. Since its founding, the ACLU has been involved in many cases. A few of the most significant are discussed here:

In 1925, the ACLU persuaded John T. Scopes to defy Tennessee's anti-evolution law in a court test. Clarence Darrow, a member of the ACLU National Committee, headed Scopes' legal team. The ACLU lost the case and Scopes was fined $100. The Tennessee Supreme Court later reversed the fine, but not the conviction.

In 1940, the ACLU formally barred Communists from leadership or staff positions, and would take the position that it did not want communists as members either. The board declared that it was "inappropriate for any person to serve on the governing committees of the Union or its staff, who is a member of any political organization which supports totalitarian dictatorship in any country, or who by his public declarations indicates his support of such a principle." The ACLU has been criticized by some of its later members for this policy, and in the 1960's there was an internal push to remove this prohibition.[2]

In 1942, a few months after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the ACLU affiliates on the West Coast became some of the sharpest critics of the government's policy on enemy aliens and U.S. citizens descended from enemy ancestry. This included the relocation of Japanese-American citizens, internment of aliens, prejudicial curfews (Hirabayashi v. United States, 1943), and the like.

Civil rights activist and humanist author Corliss Lamont served as director of the ACLU from 1932 to 1954.

In 1954, the ACLU played a role in the case of Brown v. Board of Education, which led to the ban on segregation in U.S. public schools.

In 1973, the organization was the first major national organization to call for the impeachment of President Richard M. Nixon, giving as reasons the violation by the Nixon administration of civil liberties. That same year, the ACLU was involved in the cases of Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton, in which the Supreme Court held that the constitutional right of privacy extended to women seeking abortions.

In 1977, the ACLU filed suit against the Village of Skokie, Illinois, seeking an injunction against the enforcement of three town ordinances outlawing **** parades and demonstrations (Skokie had a large Jewish population). A federal district court struck down the ordinances in a decision eventually affirmed by the U.S. Supreme Court. The ACLU's action in this case led to the resignation of about 15 percent of the membership from the organization (25 percent in Illinois), especially of Jewish members. A cutback in its activities was avoided by a special mailing which elicited $500,000 in contributions. Federal Judge Bernard M. Decker described the principle involved in the case as follows: "It is better to allow those who preach racial hatred to expend their venom in rhetoric rather than to be panicked into embarking on the dangerous course of permitting the government to decide what its citizens may say and hear ... The ability of American society to tolerate the advocacy of even hateful doctrines ... is perhaps the best protection we have against the establishment of any ****-type regime in this country."

The ACLU filed suit to challenge the Arkansas 1981 creationism statute, which required the teaching in public schools of the biblical story of creation as a scientific alternative to evolution. The law was declared unconstitutional by a Federal District Court.

The terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, and the ensuing debate regarding the proper balance of civil liberties and security including the passage of the USA PATRIOT Act, led to a 20% increase in membership between August 2001 and December 2002, when its total enrollment reached 330,000 [3]. The growth has continued; in August 2004, ACLU membership was at 400,000 [4].

The ACLU has been a vocal opponent of the PATRIOT Act of 2001, the proposed (as of 2003) PATRIOT 2 Act, and associated legislation made in response to the threat of domestic terrorism, that it believes violates either the letter or the spirit of the U.S. Bill of Rights. In response to a requirement of the PATRIOT Act, the ACLU withdrew from a Federal Donation Program that provides matching funds from the federal government for federal employees. The requirement was that ACLU employees must be checked against a federal anti-terrorism watch list. The ACLU estimates that it will lose approximately $500,000 in such contributions. See also: ACLU v. Ashcroft
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Controversial defense stances

The organization believes that free speech rights must be available to all citizens of the United States. Therefore, it has taken on unpopular cases to defend the free speech rights of clients such as Ku Klux Klan members, neo-**** groups, and NAMBLA, a group which supports legalization of pederasty.

The ACLU has defended Frank Snepp formerly of the Central Intelligence Agency (from an attempt of this government agency to gag him) and Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North (convicted on the basis of coerced testimony—a violation of his fifth amendment rights).
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