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Right now I would suggest just buying a good set of wheels and tires for the street, and keep your stocks rallycrossing. Other than that, maybe a set of Eibach springs and you should be ok. Otherwise, you'll need coilovers to get good results on the gravel and still have good handling on the street.
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Ok thanks. I was planning on buying tires and wheels for the street and then putting some good off road tires on the stock wheels. What tires are good for rally? I thought that Eibach only made lowering springs for the wrx, isn't that bad as far as rallying is concerned? Also are there any other mods i should do besides the wheels and tires, sway bars, strut tower bars, short ram intake, short shifter, intercooler/radiator hoses, cat-back exhaust?
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sounds like you left out skid plates, a rear diff guard and mudflaps. i'd skip the short ram intake and leave the stock airbox intact. oh, and spend the $30 for shifter bushings, it'll make the short shifter feel better. stainless brake lines would also be an excelled idea (that and the shifter bushings together would be cheaper than a short ram anyway).
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i sugess u to get all the protections done 1st, in car and under car (it worth the $$) then try upgrade your brake like high grade fluid, racing pads, brake lines, rotors, calipers...etc.
then go for suspension parts: adj shocks and rally springs (go for rally dampers after u got better! i sugess to buy 2 sets of springs. one for street, one for rally. for street spring rates try not to go over 150lbs. for rally use, go for 350lbs and above.) then go for a 21mm and above rear sway bar. (it helps fight understeer and make your car drift easier) and dont foget the most important part, LSD! get a 1.5 way for the rear and 1 way for the front if u can.
findally, u should touch your preformace parts the last. a boost controller, intake and cat back will be just enough for the rally. rallying is 50% of driving skill, 40% of car handling, 5% of luck and 5% of car power. that's my 2 cents.
then go for suspension parts: adj shocks and rally springs (go for rally dampers after u got better! i sugess to buy 2 sets of springs. one for street, one for rally. for street spring rates try not to go over 150lbs. for rally use, go for 350lbs and above.) then go for a 21mm and above rear sway bar. (it helps fight understeer and make your car drift easier) and dont foget the most important part, LSD! get a 1.5 way for the rear and 1 way for the front if u can.
findally, u should touch your preformace parts the last. a boost controller, intake and cat back will be just enough for the rally. rallying is 50% of driving skill, 40% of car handling, 5% of luck and 5% of car power. that's my 2 cents.
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OK, what do you mean by "amateur rallys"? Do you mean RallyX and Rally Sprints or do you mean SCCA Club Rally/ SCCA Pro Rally?
OK, first of all, if you care about your paint job, you can get the 3M clear bra treatment on the front bumper, grill, part of the hood, hood scoop, and wing... those are the major components succeptable to damage. Mud flaps would also be a major mod if you want to protect your paint, but its also useful in keeping the car slightly cleaner.
For RallyX and Rally Sprints, you can compete stock. And I recommend that you do so before modding... just to get a better idea of what you want to do with your car or if rally is really for you. Only thing I would recommend is a full sized spare (or more) and a willingness to get your car dirty.
For an actual SCCA rally event, it takes A LOT of work.
I've been doing rallyX's bone stock for a while, just recently I added larger sway bars front and rear, then a custom kyb/ ground control/ eibach set-up to lift the car 2". At this point, I am now AWD Open Class, so I need to get some Gravel Tires to compete with others in my class. These mods help, but they also move you up to a class where you compete with fully prepped rally cars with seasoned drivers. So go out stock, bring a spare (or more), and have fun.
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OK, first of all, if you care about your paint job, you can get the 3M clear bra treatment on the front bumper, grill, part of the hood, hood scoop, and wing... those are the major components succeptable to damage. Mud flaps would also be a major mod if you want to protect your paint, but its also useful in keeping the car slightly cleaner.
For RallyX and Rally Sprints, you can compete stock. And I recommend that you do so before modding... just to get a better idea of what you want to do with your car or if rally is really for you. Only thing I would recommend is a full sized spare (or more) and a willingness to get your car dirty.
For an actual SCCA rally event, it takes A LOT of work.
I've been doing rallyX's bone stock for a while, just recently I added larger sway bars front and rear, then a custom kyb/ ground control/ eibach set-up to lift the car 2". At this point, I am now AWD Open Class, so I need to get some Gravel Tires to compete with others in my class. These mods help, but they also move you up to a class where you compete with fully prepped rally cars with seasoned drivers. So go out stock, bring a spare (or more), and have fun.
Huy
www.gravelcrew.com
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I work alot of rallies as well as being a part of the Rim of the World organizing commitee so I take my car onto rally-type roads on a regular basis.
1st, Invest in some underbody protection. A good place to start is Primitive Racing
2nd, buy some rally wheels and some appropriate rally tires. For a less expensive start, hang out at the service area of a Pro or Club Rally and ask the service crews if you can inspect/buy used rally tires. Well prepped teams will often change tires with as little as 50 miles on them (30 transit/20 SS)
3rd, I'd recommend DMS coilovers in at least 40mm.
If you've got a wagon, definately get a rear strut tower bar.
Definately buddy up with other teams to help learn what you can and cannot do depending on what class you are going to run.
Good luck,
Mike
1st, Invest in some underbody protection. A good place to start is Primitive Racing
2nd, buy some rally wheels and some appropriate rally tires. For a less expensive start, hang out at the service area of a Pro or Club Rally and ask the service crews if you can inspect/buy used rally tires. Well prepped teams will often change tires with as little as 50 miles on them (30 transit/20 SS)
3rd, I'd recommend DMS coilovers in at least 40mm.
If you've got a wagon, definately get a rear strut tower bar.
Definately buddy up with other teams to help learn what you can and cannot do depending on what class you are going to run.
Good luck,
Mike
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