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Originally posted by SXPi
Maybe I can shead some light on this....they did recently change the dampning so it would not be as stiff
Maybe I can shead some light on this....they did recently change the dampning so it would not be as stiff
So, in the end JIC just changed the strut valving to be less stiff for the less-than-perfect US roads? What about spring rates? How "soft" would full soft be now?
We have had nothing but stellar results with the JIC's to date..very nice build quality, and quiet pillow ***** (something that cannot be said for all coilovers, regardless of maker). Each one we have done was using the default spring rates they provide.
To the guy who used them in NYC, no coilover will be good under those conditions. But, around our shop, which are typical LI roads (some new and smooth, some rough), they performed enviably. So much so that I am getting a set for the Galant instead of the Tein HA's I had originally planned on.
Loads of features..comparable to the Tein RA, but around $450.00 cheaper.
As for customer support, I guess it all depends who you buy them from...as a dealer, there were some supply issues at the beginning, but things have been fine lately.
Rally Ho - who did you buy yours from?
To the guy who used them in NYC, no coilover will be good under those conditions. But, around our shop, which are typical LI roads (some new and smooth, some rough), they performed enviably. So much so that I am getting a set for the Galant instead of the Tein HA's I had originally planned on.
Loads of features..comparable to the Tein RA, but around $450.00 cheaper.
As for customer support, I guess it all depends who you buy them from...as a dealer, there were some supply issues at the beginning, but things have been fine lately.
Rally Ho - who did you buy yours from?
maybe its just hawaii get crappy batches because like shin said i know all 3 guys that have had problems at first when shin rs's jic blew he called them and jic tried to tell him he installed them wrong!!!!!!!! there was also another guy here that the whole bottom of the strut blew out!!! if that doesnt say crappy build quality i dont know what does
i was actually going to get a set when shin first got his the ride was great i like it stiff =) but after the horror i changed ny mind
i was actually going to get a set when shin first got his the ride was great i like it stiff =) but after the horror i changed ny mind
Last edited by ds baruuuuu; Nov 26, 2002 at 12:54 PM.
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I've never heard anything bad about JIC's before and that includes the drifters around Japan who abuse the hell out of their cars. I've got a set waiting to go on my RS when I get back. I need to get with Adam about the pillow ball mounts though.
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Good luck with your JIC's. If not for those, I'd really recomend using tein's. They have a strong US backing, and from all the people who I have helped with thiers and all the people who I know who have them in thier cars, they've had no problems at all with them.
Now maybe we in hawaii have some kind of "special" problem with our JIC's, but I find it funny that the guy who sold me mine and distributes JIC's had his blow out on his own personal car... Now from what I heard, JIC has turned over a new leaf, and is not charging him for shipping or the replacement of the blown out struts, but that's the crap that they tried with me (after admitting that they had defects) And in my book, that's just wrong...
Now maybe we in hawaii have some kind of "special" problem with our JIC's, but I find it funny that the guy who sold me mine and distributes JIC's had his blow out on his own personal car... Now from what I heard, JIC has turned over a new leaf, and is not charging him for shipping or the replacement of the blown out struts, but that's the crap that they tried with me (after admitting that they had defects) And in my book, that's just wrong...
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I say just don't buy them. Until recently in the past year, I never heard of them. But we all know how long Cusco or Tein has been around in the u.s. market. After seeing first hand the defects, I won't buy them personally.
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JIC has been around a while. Just because it hasn't been sold in the US doesn't mean its not a good company. I'm sure there are alot of companies over here in Japan that people in the US have never heard of. Hell I remember when people in the Subaru crowd first started talking about TEIN. Also everyone I know who has owned a TEIN suspension has had to have them rebuilt or replaced.
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JIC FLT-A2's here on my 98 RS. Replaced the DMS 50's that were on the car.
The car rides about the same as it did with the 50's, but I REALLY like the fact that the FLT-A2's allow you to set the spring pre-load with the perch adjustment, then allow you to set ride height with the bottom sleeve.
I do get a little bit of porpoising on some stretches of freeway here in San Diego that are the grooved concrete, but that's due to the way they were poured. They have very short "waves", so the suspension loads and unloads slightly when it traverses the peaks and troughs of these "waves", inducing the porpoising motion.
On normal stretches of asphalt or flat concrete, the ride is smooth.
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I must forcefully agree with Z1 and N/A about the build quality of the JIC suspension parts. I'd compare these in every aspect with the best of the best from Cusco, FLATT, Tein, SYMS or HKS. They are, ounce for ounce, every bit as well engineered and built as any of the others, and their pricing makes them a bargain in comparison.
We've only had to replace one person's coilover, but that is because it was damaged when someone attempted to adjust it by piercing a seal and releasing the nitrogen charge in the strut, mistaking it for an adjustment point.
The car rides about the same as it did with the 50's, but I REALLY like the fact that the FLT-A2's allow you to set the spring pre-load with the perch adjustment, then allow you to set ride height with the bottom sleeve.
I do get a little bit of porpoising on some stretches of freeway here in San Diego that are the grooved concrete, but that's due to the way they were poured. They have very short "waves", so the suspension loads and unloads slightly when it traverses the peaks and troughs of these "waves", inducing the porpoising motion.
On normal stretches of asphalt or flat concrete, the ride is smooth.
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I must forcefully agree with Z1 and N/A about the build quality of the JIC suspension parts. I'd compare these in every aspect with the best of the best from Cusco, FLATT, Tein, SYMS or HKS. They are, ounce for ounce, every bit as well engineered and built as any of the others, and their pricing makes them a bargain in comparison.
We've only had to replace one person's coilover, but that is because it was damaged when someone attempted to adjust it by piercing a seal and releasing the nitrogen charge in the strut, mistaking it for an adjustment point.
Last edited by Digital_Boy; Nov 27, 2002 at 10:04 PM.
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We are running a group buy on these if anyone is interested. I'm not sure If I am allowed to cross post, but it seemed relevant and I see that a couple of people are considering.
I have personally heard nothing but favorable reviews of the JIC hardware. They are a bit stiffer than some, but overall the quality and durability are up there with just about anything below $2500.
Please check out this thread if you think you might be interested: https://www.i-club.com/forums/showth...&threadid=1637
I have personally heard nothing but favorable reviews of the JIC hardware. They are a bit stiffer than some, but overall the quality and durability are up there with just about anything below $2500.
Please check out this thread if you think you might be interested: https://www.i-club.com/forums/showth...&threadid=1637
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Ok, I'm gonna go out on a limb and make a couple of assumptions and hypothysize about the failure of the "Hawain" JIC's.
Could the failures be caused by air freighting the coilovers?
Extreme cold will cause the aluminum to contract, the degree of contraction is relative to the mass of the object.
Ambient pressure drop results in an increase in "apparent internal pressure". The increase would be realive to the pressure drop, if the cargo hold were not pressurized it would be rather substantial.
Could the combination of these two forces be enough to un-seat an "O"-ring?
I dunno..
later,
Andy
Could the failures be caused by air freighting the coilovers?
Extreme cold will cause the aluminum to contract, the degree of contraction is relative to the mass of the object.
Ambient pressure drop results in an increase in "apparent internal pressure". The increase would be realive to the pressure drop, if the cargo hold were not pressurized it would be rather substantial.
Could the combination of these two forces be enough to un-seat an "O"-ring?
I dunno..
later,
Andy
My JIC's are in 8/6 setup. My original ideas about these were correct. Though extremley stiff at first..after 600 miles of driving they have broken in. Very good handling and feel in a autocross / drag strip situation. Just a little too stiff for these New England areas with crappy roads.
I am looking forward to my 7/5 kg springs for a slightly "softer" ride. otherwise i feel this was a good choice.
What is the consensus of the dampening settings for front and back? Full stiff? 10 clicks front and back?
please post your feedback
I am looking forward to my 7/5 kg springs for a slightly "softer" ride. otherwise i feel this was a good choice.
What is the consensus of the dampening settings for front and back? Full stiff? 10 clicks front and back?
please post your feedback
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hey,
i love my JIC's! i currently have the 7/5 setup, and they aren't that bad at all. the key is that they retain all of their travell no matter what height you set them at. that means that they will absorb a large bump the same way as they absorb a small one. i know this sounds simple, but that is one of the reasons why "lowering springs" are harsh. they absorb small bumps like stock, but they limit the shock's "up-travel", so anything larger than a 2"bump will go straight through the car. personally i think that is worse because you can get used to how the car rides with the JIC's, but just springs will surprise you.
also, we've done a lot of installs of these coilovers, and we haven't had any problems with their build quality.
just my $.02,
-james
i love my JIC's! i currently have the 7/5 setup, and they aren't that bad at all. the key is that they retain all of their travell no matter what height you set them at. that means that they will absorb a large bump the same way as they absorb a small one. i know this sounds simple, but that is one of the reasons why "lowering springs" are harsh. they absorb small bumps like stock, but they limit the shock's "up-travel", so anything larger than a 2"bump will go straight through the car. personally i think that is worse because you can get used to how the car rides with the JIC's, but just springs will surprise you.
also, we've done a lot of installs of these coilovers, and we haven't had any problems with their build quality.
just my $.02,
-james


