GREAT article on suspensions very informative
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GREAT article on suspensions very informative
hey check this out...its VERY INFORMATIVE
http://www.hondalive.net/lordaccord/lowering101.html
http://www.hondalive.net/lordaccord/lowering101.html
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for further reading....here's a link to a guy from prodrive.uk
http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...hreadid=177279
enjoy...BlueMax
http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...hreadid=177279
enjoy...BlueMax
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You dont want a stiff spring and a soft shock, but you can be just fine with a soft spring and a stiff shock.
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i dont think i agree with all that info. the part about progressive rate springs and the part about cutting stock springs. ill have to look at it tomorrow, im way too tired right now to argue logically.
i dont think i agree with all that info. the part about progressive rate springs and the part about cutting stock springs. ill have to look at it tomorrow, im way too tired right now to argue logically.
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That guy states a lot of truth, BUT many of his explanations of those thruths is totally wrong.
Not once does he mention bump stops, strut length, or even *spring length* or spring wire diameter (coil spacing is listed as the only factor affecting rate)
I love this one:
Uhh, yes it is. The shock dampens the spring motion. The shock dissipates the energy. If that isn't 'absorbing the shock', I'm not sure what is.
While I won't dispute some of the things he says, his technical descriptions are lacking. I commend his initiative to try to present answers to commonly asked questions. I hope he is open to constructive criticism though.
Not once does he mention bump stops, strut length, or even *spring length* or spring wire diameter (coil spacing is listed as the only factor affecting rate)
I love this one:
The principal behind shocks is that the shock compresses a certain amount (of course) as the spring does, but it really isnt absorbing the "shock" per say.
While I won't dispute some of the things he says, his technical descriptions are lacking. I commend his initiative to try to present answers to commonly asked questions. I hope he is open to constructive criticism though.
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I am working on a revamp of the post right now... keep in mind that it is about a 2 year old write up, I had pretty much just gotten tired of the same old "which this should I buy" "why is my ride so bumpy" posts... and, well frankly I wrote that in one sitdown and never really proofread it or attempted to back up what I said, and shortly thereafter I moved and didn't even look at the web boards for about a year and a half... so, I know there's work that needs doing.
The rework will contain links to many compilations of knowledge that I have learned from over the years, as well as some much needed rewording. Any problems you find and bring to light are welcome, as they will probably be edited or changed anyways.
This was never intended to be a technical article, but as it attracts the attention of people that want a technical description of what they are doing, I know I'm going to have to delve deeper... it's already been brought up many times.
I guess to clear up your statement concillian, I know that springrate calculation is one of the things that needs clarification and I have tried to do so in other posts over there. And that statement you quoted, well... the spring is what absorbs all of the bumps and inconsitancies and converts it into a certain motion; shocks convert that motion to heat. Maybe I didn't word it right, but it's a pretty general concept.
Anyways, like I said, I know there are a lot of things in that article that don't stand up when you get down to the extreme details, but for the most part the people concerned with the finest of fine points don't need my thread. Nevertheless, I'll be adressing a lot of more technical points, and I'll attempt to spend the time needed for a truly comprehensive article this time around. Constructive criticism is very very welcome.
Good to meet you all, as well.
EDIT: I see that he linked to my website - soemthing that should be mentioned is that any additions or editing that I have done, and other questions I have answered have been done so on the thread that I posted that in on one of the Honda webboards. My page hasn't been updated in a good long while, and if you are looking around on it you are seeing old stuff. I continue to learn and my viewpoint is constantly ready to change as I try out new setups and cars and suspensions. It's somewhat difficult sometimes for me to take the lead on an area that nobody with tons more expertise doesn't want to mess with, so I try to do what I can to cater to the group of people that actually sees what I write.
The rework will contain links to many compilations of knowledge that I have learned from over the years, as well as some much needed rewording. Any problems you find and bring to light are welcome, as they will probably be edited or changed anyways.
This was never intended to be a technical article, but as it attracts the attention of people that want a technical description of what they are doing, I know I'm going to have to delve deeper... it's already been brought up many times.
I guess to clear up your statement concillian, I know that springrate calculation is one of the things that needs clarification and I have tried to do so in other posts over there. And that statement you quoted, well... the spring is what absorbs all of the bumps and inconsitancies and converts it into a certain motion; shocks convert that motion to heat. Maybe I didn't word it right, but it's a pretty general concept.
Anyways, like I said, I know there are a lot of things in that article that don't stand up when you get down to the extreme details, but for the most part the people concerned with the finest of fine points don't need my thread. Nevertheless, I'll be adressing a lot of more technical points, and I'll attempt to spend the time needed for a truly comprehensive article this time around. Constructive criticism is very very welcome.
Good to meet you all, as well.
EDIT: I see that he linked to my website - soemthing that should be mentioned is that any additions or editing that I have done, and other questions I have answered have been done so on the thread that I posted that in on one of the Honda webboards. My page hasn't been updated in a good long while, and if you are looking around on it you are seeing old stuff. I continue to learn and my viewpoint is constantly ready to change as I try out new setups and cars and suspensions. It's somewhat difficult sometimes for me to take the lead on an area that nobody with tons more expertise doesn't want to mess with, so I try to do what I can to cater to the group of people that actually sees what I write.
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