Axxis Ultimate in Winter
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Axxis Ultimate in Winter
I'm looking to upgrade pads, but need something that is effective the first time at -20F. I saw a post on NASIOC where someone has very poor stopping distance on the first stop with these pads at below freezing temperatures. Anyone else had this problem? On comment on uprated street (not track) pads at these temperatures
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Well, the pads are high temperature pads meaning. This means that they need some heat to be built up in them before they actually start to grip really well. I suggest that in the winter time, you stick with stock pads.
When the summer comes, then install a set of Ulitmate pads for the dry. I highly recommend these pads to people want a high performance street pad. I like them and I use them in all my cars. But then again it never gets that cold here in California, especially where I live.
When the summer comes, then install a set of Ulitmate pads for the dry. I highly recommend these pads to people want a high performance street pad. I like them and I use them in all my cars. But then again it never gets that cold here in California, especially where I live.
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Hence the reason why I said to stick with the stock pads. If you read my post from up top. Because I know that when he meant cold, he meant cold. Calgary is really "cold" in the winters.
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I noticed that once the pad heated up, then the stopping distances improved. Because the pad does require heat to work at its best. But I have driven the car during cold mornings in California at like 2pm(30degrees F) with the Axxis pads and I did not notice any significant stopping distances or anything. Because before I would come to a stop, I would drag the brake just to build some heat up in the pads.
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I use them in winter here. They are no problem in winter.
It was 10F here last week. When I pull out the car, I 'll
do 1 to 2 stops to get the ice off the rotor and heat up the
brake. Then everything is fine.
I have no problem with it. You will generate enough heat
for the pad by holding down your brake in for 5 sec. So basically,
drive like you normally do, and you will have no problem.
It was 10F here last week. When I pull out the car, I 'll
do 1 to 2 stops to get the ice off the rotor and heat up the
brake. Then everything is fine.
I have no problem with it. You will generate enough heat
for the pad by holding down your brake in for 5 sec. So basically,
drive like you normally do, and you will have no problem.
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Normally I just jump in the car and go. How well do they stop when you do the first 1 or 2 stops? What if a kid steps out from behind a parked car before you've done this, will they stop? How about after an hour of freeway driving in the cold, then a deer jumps out. Will they stop fine then?
I'm posing maybe some nontypical situations for most people, I suppose typically easing it out of the driveway you'd touch the brakes one or twice. Often though, I'll just be parked at the curb, so with stock pads, I wouldn't typically step on the brakes before getting underway. They stop fine the first time. How about the Axxis Ultimates?
Hypothetically, I suppose even a full track pad could be used on the street summer or winter, if you kept the brakes in use and warm.
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I'm posing maybe some nontypical situations for most people, I suppose typically easing it out of the driveway you'd touch the brakes one or twice. Often though, I'll just be parked at the curb, so with stock pads, I wouldn't typically step on the brakes before getting underway. They stop fine the first time. How about the Axxis Ultimates?
Hypothetically, I suppose even a full track pad could be used on the street summer or winter, if you kept the brakes in use and warm.
Jim
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I have axxis ultimates too and live in the northeast, so I thought I'd chime in too. On cold mornings here ( < 10 F), if I try to brake hard without warming up, my ABS comes on abruptly. And the pads make this grinding sound under use when cold.
So every morning I drive out of the lot with my left foot on the brakes for a good 100 feet (at least). I find that warms up the brakes nice and quickly.
I think I'm going back to oem pads next winter.
So every morning I drive out of the lot with my left foot on the brakes for a good 100 feet (at least). I find that warms up the brakes nice and quickly.
I think I'm going back to oem pads next winter.
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I don't think you need to hold the brake for 100ft.
See, if you ABS system kicks in, it means your brake pad
has enough friction to lock the rotor, your brake pad already
has very good grip.
I think it is the frozen rubber (tires) that needs to warm up
a little. 100 ft of driving should do it.
I don't think you need to hold the brake for 100ft.
See, if you ABS system kicks in, it means your brake pad
has enough friction to lock the rotor, your brake pad already
has very good grip.
I think it is the frozen rubber (tires) that needs to warm up
a little. 100 ft of driving should do it.
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I agree with xstar. Even in California in the 30F temp range. I still need to drag it to heat it up or else I will have the harsh squeeking noise from the pads. The pads do need heat.
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In the last 2 weeks it has been below 0 here a few times and I haven't noticed any increase in stopping distances. I haven't done anything to warm up the brakes either , just driven normally. I have noticed my ABS doesn't come on as much as last winter. I have had these pads since summer and really like them. I do wish they were less dusty and noisy.................Doug