anyone have the dms 50s on their street car
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When I was looking into my suspension I spoke to some people who said the ride on the DMS 50 was not all together great for street. I never actually rode on them, so its all heresay, but I do alot of business based on what other people think, so I did not buy them.
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Re: anyone have the dms 50s on their street car
Originally posted by stealth-wrx
how do they feel. can you order any spring rate you want.
how do they feel. can you order any spring rate you want.
The only setup I rode in was a track setup w/ 350ish springs, for what it was designed for it was excellent, for a daily driver it left some room for improvement. I think the rally length struts w/ lower spring rates 180/225 and the appropriate valving would make the best "street" setup. That may be what ChrisW is running if I remember correctly.
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Originally posted by stealth-wrx
cool. now i just need to save up for them. $2500 is alot of money for coilovers.
cool. now i just need to save up for them. $2500 is alot of money for coilovers.
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I had the Rally length street valved DMS 50's on my car. Handling was excellent, but it let you know immediately when you found an imperfection in the road. Not a kidney buster by any stretch of the imagination.
I replaced them with JIC FLT-A2's, which I feel is a solid improvement. The ride and handling are equal/similar to the 50's, but there are some design issues with the DMS that I couldn't live with. The adjusters are very vulnerable to damage and sticking, and break off easily, and the external mounting for ancillary lines is, shall we say, ghetto? The JIC's have a solid bracket welded in place, the DMS have a square nut tack welded to the body of the strut. I broke one of those off trying to tighten down a brake line bracket. I ended up having to zip tie the brake line to the strut body to keep it out of harm's way.
Plus, the JIC's have a dual adjustment for ride height and spring preload. There is one set of perches to move the spring up and down, and the bottom collar where the spindle bolts onto the strut is also threaded w/locking collar to adjust ride height without changing spring preload.
For a dedicated rally/track car, I could have lived with the issues that I had with the DMS. For a street car, and one that will be a rolling advertisement for my shop, I felt the DMS needed to go.
I replaced them with JIC FLT-A2's, which I feel is a solid improvement. The ride and handling are equal/similar to the 50's, but there are some design issues with the DMS that I couldn't live with. The adjusters are very vulnerable to damage and sticking, and break off easily, and the external mounting for ancillary lines is, shall we say, ghetto? The JIC's have a solid bracket welded in place, the DMS have a square nut tack welded to the body of the strut. I broke one of those off trying to tighten down a brake line bracket. I ended up having to zip tie the brake line to the strut body to keep it out of harm's way.
Plus, the JIC's have a dual adjustment for ride height and spring preload. There is one set of perches to move the spring up and down, and the bottom collar where the spindle bolts onto the strut is also threaded w/locking collar to adjust ride height without changing spring preload.
For a dedicated rally/track car, I could have lived with the issues that I had with the DMS. For a street car, and one that will be a rolling advertisement for my shop, I felt the DMS needed to go.
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The DMS 50s are an exceptional setup for a street car, even if a bit of overkill, IMHO. You can make the car do anything that you want, handling-wise. The set I flogged had 180/180 springs, and the ride control was unreal. Ride control, of course, means killer handling.
They were rally length, street valved, by the way. Many people like the JICs. Many people, like DMS folks, were having major bounciness problems with the JICs. I know that when I drove the DMS, there wasn't a hint of bounciness. Impressive stuff, that.
Hey Digital Boy, how much pressure were you using to tighten the bracket man! Dang! Broke it off...
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They were rally length, street valved, by the way. Many people like the JICs. Many people, like DMS folks, were having major bounciness problems with the JICs. I know that when I drove the DMS, there wasn't a hint of bounciness. Impressive stuff, that.
Hey Digital Boy, how much pressure were you using to tighten the bracket man! Dang! Broke it off...
Kevin
