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Collins Jan 4, 2003 03:01 AM

Anti-lift info
 
I am starting a basic susp. upgrade on my 03' WRX. So far I've installed:1} Whiteline Antisway Bar, 2} Whiteline Antisway Bushings, 3}215/45/17 Dayton ZR tires on Montegi MR-7 wheels. [noticed HUGE improvement with tires and wheels]. My planned next step is a Whiteline Anti-Lift Kit. I waited til' after I got my new wheels, since complete wheel relign is required after Anti-lift install. I haven't heard much mention re: Antilift Kits. Supposed to be very effective in keeping nose DOWN during hard accel and aggresive WOT cornering. Very popular in Australia on Rally Circuit. Question: Any stateside experience with antililift kits,Whiteline or otherwise? Would really appreciate any feedback and/or info. Thanks, Collins PS: I am following the rec. Stage One susp. upgrades by Vivid Racing.

chrisw Jan 4, 2003 08:43 AM

I don't have any personal experiance with the ALK. I hear it's a big PIA to install.

You can get the same effect by using the MRT camber caster plates which are a hell of a lot easier to install.

18hrwrx Jan 4, 2003 04:03 PM

I have had my ALK for about a year....I would say that it is one of the better suspension mods for the buck. everything you have said about it is correct. I have the following suspention mods and can still feel the ALK

SPT control arms
CUSCO 21mm Front Sway Bar
CUSCO 22mm Rear Sway Bar
CUSCO Type-CB Rear Strut Bar
CUSCO Zero 2 Coilovers
MRT endlinks
MRT Anti-lift kit

Collins Jan 4, 2003 08:45 PM

Install OF ALK
 
Thanks for your input. Nice to hear you can feel effects of ALK, esp. after your pretty extensive susp. mods. Self install would be PITA {alluding to prior reply}, so I'm having my Suby dealer do it. Total install $140. Worth it to me. Again, thanks for your input. Collins

superstring Jan 7, 2003 06:20 PM

Collins

You might want to check out this thread on Scoobynet:

[url]http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/thread.asp?ThreadID=131392[/url]

If that thread doesn't already give you more info than you ever wanted, there's plenty more if you do a search. :)

codger Jan 8, 2003 05:50 PM

What does the ALK do about dive on corners when decellerating? I've seen some info say it'll make it worse, others say it improves (lessens) dive. Any experiences here?

Jim

Steppin Razor Jan 8, 2003 09:47 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by codger [/i]
[B]What does the ALK do about dive on corners when decellerating? I've seen some info say it'll make it worse, others say it improves (lessens) dive. Any experiences here?

Jim [/B][/QUOTE]

I also am interested. By decreasing lift on acceleration are you also increasing dive on deceleration? Or are you decreasing lift on acceleration and decreasing dive on deceleration? Any input would be appreciated.

superstring Jan 9, 2003 10:43 AM

codger/Steppin Razor

Here's the thread from ScoobyNet again:

[url]http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/thre...ThreadID=131392[/url]

Check it out. Your questions will be answered! :)

John

Steppin Razor Jan 9, 2003 07:04 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by superstring [/i]
[B]codger/Steppin Razor

Here's the thread from ScoobyNet again:

[url]http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/thre...ThreadID=131392[/url]

Check it out. Your questions will be answered! :)

John [/B][/QUOTE]

i would love to but the link does not work. please help.

bamfwrx Jan 9, 2003 07:47 PM

try this link
[url]http://www.mrtrally.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1538[/url]

superstring Jan 9, 2003 09:59 PM

Hey Steppin Razor

You're right, the (2nd) link doesn't work, I don't know why.... or maybe it's because I copied it from the first post?? Duh... :(

Go up a couple of posts and try the (same) link there. That one works for me. Hopefully it'll work for you. It's worth it. :)

John

Steppin Razor Jan 9, 2003 10:26 PM

yeah, i got it. still doesn't answer my question. go to the MRT thread and see if what I said makes any sense at all.

Wingless Wonder Jan 10, 2003 03:33 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by superstring [/i]
[B]You're right, the (2nd) link doesn't work, I don't know why.... or maybe it's because I copied it from the first post??[/B][/QUOTE]i-Club forums prevents wrapping of long .url lines by truncating what you see, but the link remains valid. There's a problem with cutting and pasting, though - it copies the literal truncated line (three dots in .url line), instead of the actual linked .url. This can be avoided by right-clicking on the link and selecting Copy shortcut from the mouse menu, then pasting into your post with a mouse right-click (Paste) or keyboard (CTRL+V).

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superstring Jan 10, 2003 11:52 AM

[quote] yeah, i got it. still doesn't answer my question. go to the MRT thread and see if what I said makes any sense at all. - Steppin Razor[/quote]

Steppin Razor, I think if you re-read Jim Gurieff's last post from the MRT thread you'll see that he says the Anti-lift Kit actually increases front lift (and dive)! -

[quote]I have to admit that the basic conclusion is a little embarrassing when compared with the existing text of the product description. Specifically, our testing data found that the fitment of the ALK increases from (sic) lift under power while reducing understeer and delivering the positives described by customers and quantified thru extensive track testing. - Jim Gurieff[/quote]

And then:

[quote]From this you can see that the product name is misleading and inappropriate. This will be changed and qualified even though it deals with the geometric concept of “anti-lift”.[/quote]

ryball Jan 10, 2003 03:35 PM

After reading all that, I think I'm leaning towards the MRT camber/caster plates, now...


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