Cost of ownership on a STI.
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Cost of ownership on a STI.
We'll I'm back, kind of. Long story short my insurance is weird as hell. I'm 21, clean record.
Insurance with minimal on a '95 GST is 210 a month for me (great), full coverage for a Lancer is 117 (not bad) a Civic 165, a RS 165, a WRX 215 and lastly a RSX 279.
Yes... wtf. I joking asked about an Evolution after hearing the RSX (expecting well over 400). $150. I called the next day, 936 every six months, I now have it in writing. Yes no confusion gave a sample vin and all.
I've been considering an Evo and I love the looks (sorry guys) however I'm shopping used (20ish with 5 down for 300ish a month is the goal really). However I have been reading scary things, lots of people beat these bad boys (Far more then normal sports cars get) and cost of up keep is high. Tires and brakes are an annual affair along with full fluid changes and a very very weak clutch that barely last 10k miles it seems.
Is the STI going to have a similar lack of "durability"? I don't intend to race or mod my car, no time honestly and moding such perfection is an atrocity. These will be classics one day and I bet it will be 10 years at least before they fall under 10k a pop for a good condition one (I point to the DSMs).
I also can't seem to find any use prices to go buy on a STI, I'm told they lose value quicker then Evos but state side and world wide.
Thanks.
Insurance with minimal on a '95 GST is 210 a month for me (great), full coverage for a Lancer is 117 (not bad) a Civic 165, a RS 165, a WRX 215 and lastly a RSX 279.
Yes... wtf. I joking asked about an Evolution after hearing the RSX (expecting well over 400). $150. I called the next day, 936 every six months, I now have it in writing. Yes no confusion gave a sample vin and all.
I've been considering an Evo and I love the looks (sorry guys) however I'm shopping used (20ish with 5 down for 300ish a month is the goal really). However I have been reading scary things, lots of people beat these bad boys (Far more then normal sports cars get) and cost of up keep is high. Tires and brakes are an annual affair along with full fluid changes and a very very weak clutch that barely last 10k miles it seems.
Is the STI going to have a similar lack of "durability"? I don't intend to race or mod my car, no time honestly and moding such perfection is an atrocity. These will be classics one day and I bet it will be 10 years at least before they fall under 10k a pop for a good condition one (I point to the DSMs).
I also can't seem to find any use prices to go buy on a STI, I'm told they lose value quicker then Evos but state side and world wide.
Thanks.
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who told you that STi's loose value faster than EVO's, a Mitsubishi dealer?
Seriously though, STi's also have a higher percentage of being beaten on than your traditional vehicle (not a lot of people autocross their Tauruses). The key looking used is to find a clean, adult driven, properly broken in vehicle. A lot of times you can catch a rich guy that traded their 5 series to get an STI because they thought it would be a more fun daily driver, and doesn't like the bumps, and wants his automatic climate control, and air conditioned seats back after 9 months. You'll see that with both STi and EVO, but more, I've seen with STi's.
STi doesn't have the clutch problems EVO does, but any car like this is high maintence compared to a honda accord. 93 Octane where available otherwise 91, synthetic oil is a must, and most people use full synthetic fluids, and change them often. Tires ought to last 20-30K if you drive respectably, but not more than that, and expect at least $120 per shoe to replace, many spend $200. Brakes will wear faster too (go faster= stop faster= more brake wear).
These cars are not happy if you skimp on maintence in general as well. It's best to figure in a reasonable maintence allowance as part of your monthly car expenses, because if you take good care of it, it will take good care of you. If you drive it hard, put it away wet, and don't take care of it, you'll have problems.
All sportscars are designed to function on the edge of performance, so you do sacrifice some durability, and you ought to be prepared to take care of the car if you get it, it's not like a Nissan Sentra, where you can change the oil once every 10,000 miles, and expect to get away with it.
Seriously though, STi's also have a higher percentage of being beaten on than your traditional vehicle (not a lot of people autocross their Tauruses). The key looking used is to find a clean, adult driven, properly broken in vehicle. A lot of times you can catch a rich guy that traded their 5 series to get an STI because they thought it would be a more fun daily driver, and doesn't like the bumps, and wants his automatic climate control, and air conditioned seats back after 9 months. You'll see that with both STi and EVO, but more, I've seen with STi's.
STi doesn't have the clutch problems EVO does, but any car like this is high maintence compared to a honda accord. 93 Octane where available otherwise 91, synthetic oil is a must, and most people use full synthetic fluids, and change them often. Tires ought to last 20-30K if you drive respectably, but not more than that, and expect at least $120 per shoe to replace, many spend $200. Brakes will wear faster too (go faster= stop faster= more brake wear).
These cars are not happy if you skimp on maintence in general as well. It's best to figure in a reasonable maintence allowance as part of your monthly car expenses, because if you take good care of it, it will take good care of you. If you drive it hard, put it away wet, and don't take care of it, you'll have problems.
All sportscars are designed to function on the edge of performance, so you do sacrifice some durability, and you ought to be prepared to take care of the car if you get it, it's not like a Nissan Sentra, where you can change the oil once every 10,000 miles, and expect to get away with it.
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This months Car and Driver had a great long term write up on cost for the Evo. I would read it if I were you. The gist was something like; race car parts wear out quickly and demand a race car price to replace.
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Car Info: a prius, a miata, & 2 m3's
Gourmet tires: $1000 every 15-20k miles
Gourmet brake pads: $200
Gourmet oil (synthetic, gear oil, diff oil): $40/3k miles, and another $60 every 10k
Stuff brakes more on a car driven hard, too.
So even though you're getting away with paying $30k for a car that matches a $70k porsche and $50k bmw, you aren't going to get away with much cheaper maintainence.
Gourmet brake pads: $200
Gourmet oil (synthetic, gear oil, diff oil): $40/3k miles, and another $60 every 10k
Stuff brakes more on a car driven hard, too.
So even though you're getting away with paying $30k for a car that matches a $70k porsche and $50k bmw, you aren't going to get away with much cheaper maintainence.
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