are there any teenage owners of the sti?
09-16-2003, 03:50 PM
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i've noticed that most subaru people my age work for everything and dont get stuff handed to them. I work for it and it doesnt have to be at mcdonalds. thats pretty funny. pffff mcdonalds. i started an internet business and i have friends who make 10 bucks an hour plus commission. there are other jobs out there besides fast food. i will earn the money and appreciate it. all i wanted to know was what i can expect to pay for insurance and you turned this into flaming the young guys for being spoiled.
yeah flyby...it'll be an sti
yeah flyby...it'll be an sti
09-16-2003, 04:32 PM
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i agree w/ generalwrx. it seems that the first thing people do around here, is try to burn someone. come on. most of us would appreciate having some things handed to them. but in return, some of these people are good students and are great people. i believe that some are not druggies, which is good. so in return, they get nice rides. and yes most do not work at mcdonalds. we make better money than that and we are young.
09-16-2003, 04:42 PM
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and for insurance: my dad called, im 19 and an 03 wrx would be $1600 full coverage if i'm the full time driver on the car. if i'm a part time driver under my dad's name it would be $1102. both figures are for every 6 months. i have no accidents or tickets.
09-16-2003, 09:40 PM
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Ok, so you are going to High School and making $10/hr plus commission and working 30 hrs/week? Not much room for being a good student there...
I am not flaming young guys, but check out STiAndy's posts on www.clubwrx.net to see what a teenager does with a $32k toy that's given to him. He has threads asking about jumps at 140 mph, he's wrecked it twice already and wants to make it faster. That pretty much sums up what I remember my friends doing when their parents gave them that Camaro SS when they turned 16, 17 or whatever.
No way are you making enough to pay for this car much less the insurance and going to school and doing any studying.
No way can you appreciate much less handle the performance of an STi with a year of driving experience.
Please, ask me how I know this.
I am not flaming young guys, but check out STiAndy's posts on www.clubwrx.net to see what a teenager does with a $32k toy that's given to him. He has threads asking about jumps at 140 mph, he's wrecked it twice already and wants to make it faster. That pretty much sums up what I remember my friends doing when their parents gave them that Camaro SS when they turned 16, 17 or whatever.
No way are you making enough to pay for this car much less the insurance and going to school and doing any studying.
No way can you appreciate much less handle the performance of an STi with a year of driving experience.
Please, ask me how I know this.
09-16-2003, 10:44 PM
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I'm 18 and at the Air Force Academy. I guess you could consider it a full time job but either way you look at it's definitely not a normal college experience. The only way I'm even able to dream about getting an STi in the next two years is the substantial loan I get from the government as a perk for missing out on some of the best things in life for 4 years. After that everything else is all out of my small but livable paycheck.
Granted some idiots do get hooked up by their too rich to care parents but the point sjice, flyBY 11, generalwrx and the majority of the rest of us are trying to make we aren't like them and the reason we're even in the forum to begin with is to gain the experience and knowledge we need to better our cars and ourselves as drivers. Not to mention meet people with the same interests and possibly the same age which was the reason for this post in the first place not to discuss whether young people like ourselves should even be driving such awesome cars as the STi. I don't want to be rude but why don't we try to get back to the actual reason for this post.
P.S. I appologize for the extremely long post but it had to be said.
Granted some idiots do get hooked up by their too rich to care parents but the point sjice, flyBY 11, generalwrx and the majority of the rest of us are trying to make we aren't like them and the reason we're even in the forum to begin with is to gain the experience and knowledge we need to better our cars and ourselves as drivers. Not to mention meet people with the same interests and possibly the same age which was the reason for this post in the first place not to discuss whether young people like ourselves should even be driving such awesome cars as the STi. I don't want to be rude but why don't we try to get back to the actual reason for this post.
P.S. I appologize for the extremely long post but it had to be said.
09-17-2003, 03:05 AM
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I got my 2002 WRX when I was 18. I handed them a check paid in full which I earned in 3 years total during H.S. where I built computers for people.
It was probably either the biggest regret of my life or the biggest life changer for me. I know that I could put that 25,000 dollars into the stock market or any investment and have it made in the future. But I didn't do that and put it on a WRX. I'm happy with the WRX, just I know I could have done something better. I don't mind driving a Civic or, in my case, a 2nd gen DSM with crankwalk, knowing you have plenty of money thats gonna grow within a few years. But hey its your money, if it makes you happy to splurge 33k on a car then by all means do it. But remember, cars depreciate. I'm 19 now and I'm already out of the "show off my wrx to people" mode that I had before.
It was probably either the biggest regret of my life or the biggest life changer for me. I know that I could put that 25,000 dollars into the stock market or any investment and have it made in the future. But I didn't do that and put it on a WRX. I'm happy with the WRX, just I know I could have done something better. I don't mind driving a Civic or, in my case, a 2nd gen DSM with crankwalk, knowing you have plenty of money thats gonna grow within a few years. But hey its your money, if it makes you happy to splurge 33k on a car then by all means do it. But remember, cars depreciate. I'm 19 now and I'm already out of the "show off my wrx to people" mode that I had before.
09-17-2003, 10:17 AM
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thanks for those insurance firuges. i appreciate it. i pay about the same with my wrx. and there you go again Daytona saying that stuff is "given" but really it isnt. fortunetly i an kinda bright so i dont need to study a lot and i get to work and ake that kind of money. also i a mature enough to drive it responsibily thank you very much but dont tell me that you would get that car and drive it slow. you can get yourself a geo metro with three cylinders. i a here to make friends who have my interests and can help me out with my dilemas and decision making. thanks guys for all your help and advice.
09-17-2003, 11:02 AM
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hey 955 daytona. why don't u stop assuming things. i'm the friend who makes the $10/hour w/ commission. you must be the immature 15 year old who relies on his allowance. that is my assumption. i'm a full time college student working 42 hours every two weeks. i'm not 18 and i don't work 30 hours per week. sux to be you, so stop making assumptions.
09-17-2003, 11:39 AM
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ok kiddies,
I am 25, have a degree in MIS and make 38k/yr. I can just now afford an STi. I have a blue/silver STi and have just over 7k miles on it. It's fantastic but I learned to drive w/ a 73 bug. Not that you must own 'beater' cars to appreciate a nice one, its just that if you have very little driving experience there's just no way you are driving the car correctly or have any idea what to do in partial traction situations. Heel-toe braking? no idea. Spending more time shifting gears than in 1st or 2nd gear? you bet. Driving way over your head? constantly in a car like this.
I know that you think you can handle anything and that you are Mario Andretti behind the wheel. These are not assumptions, its just called being 17 to 21. I got a Suzuki GSX 1100 with some go-fast parts at 18. That bike spanked the hell outta me a few times and it took me a while to 'respect' the performance capabilities of the vehicle. STiAndy has no respect for the perf. of his STi and buys into that feeling of invincibility you get when you drive something like a superbike or a supercar. I have seen guys get hurt badly and had a few pals die. All were in vehicles they were too inexperienced to handle and they all said the same things you guys are saying.
Basically insurance for superbikes when you are 18-21 is over 50% of the cost of the bike new. This is because 60% of drivers in that group TOTAL the motorcycle within the first 6 months of getting it. Granted totalling your bike=death alot more often than totalling a car, but I'm sure you both can beat the odds...
I am 25, have a degree in MIS and make 38k/yr. I can just now afford an STi. I have a blue/silver STi and have just over 7k miles on it. It's fantastic but I learned to drive w/ a 73 bug. Not that you must own 'beater' cars to appreciate a nice one, its just that if you have very little driving experience there's just no way you are driving the car correctly or have any idea what to do in partial traction situations. Heel-toe braking? no idea. Spending more time shifting gears than in 1st or 2nd gear? you bet. Driving way over your head? constantly in a car like this.
I know that you think you can handle anything and that you are Mario Andretti behind the wheel. These are not assumptions, its just called being 17 to 21. I got a Suzuki GSX 1100 with some go-fast parts at 18. That bike spanked the hell outta me a few times and it took me a while to 'respect' the performance capabilities of the vehicle. STiAndy has no respect for the perf. of his STi and buys into that feeling of invincibility you get when you drive something like a superbike or a supercar. I have seen guys get hurt badly and had a few pals die. All were in vehicles they were too inexperienced to handle and they all said the same things you guys are saying.
Basically insurance for superbikes when you are 18-21 is over 50% of the cost of the bike new. This is because 60% of drivers in that group TOTAL the motorcycle within the first 6 months of getting it. Granted totalling your bike=death alot more often than totalling a car, but I'm sure you both can beat the odds...
09-17-2003, 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by sjice
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first off bao ling ... don't assume too much.. i'm 17 sure.. does that automatically mean that i didn't work for my car? haha it's sadder that people assume these things, and can't actually say much more than that. i earned/worked for my car... sure maybe a lot of kids are spoiled out there. but don't say "you guys" as if you are referring to everyone cuz that's too biased don't you think? i'm not *****in jus informing.. dont take this seriously..
gc
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first off bao ling ... don't assume too much.. i'm 17 sure.. does that automatically mean that i didn't work for my car? haha it's sadder that people assume these things, and can't actually say much more than that. i earned/worked for my car... sure maybe a lot of kids are spoiled out there. but don't say "you guys" as if you are referring to everyone cuz that's too biased don't you think? i'm not *****in jus informing.. dont take this seriously..
gc
09-17-2003, 06:44 PM
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Oh, and another thing... how much do you young kids make? I'll tell you what I make because you don't know me so I don't care if I tell you. I make 400.00 bucks a day! That's right! And some of you might be saying, "Holy s*t, that's alot of money" Well, I can tell you that I can barely afford this car and I have no other expenses besides a small morgage. So how can all you teenagers do it? I don't want to go off on you guys but let's call a spade a spade here and just admit you were handed it on a silver platter and some of us might respect you a little more for at least telling the truth.
09-17-2003, 07:54 PM
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This is going to be my last post cuz i quit with you guys. granted i live at home cuz college is so close and parents pay for food. i have a scholarship to college so there are no expenses. i have also a book scholarship so no expenses again. most of my money wil go to buy this car and the rest will be there to maintain it such as insurance and oil changes and all the neccessary stuff. i have never been handed anything and i have always worked for it. since people are being pigheaded then i guess i will have to respond in the same matter. if you are making 400 a day then your budgeting skills suck. and as for being immature to drive it give me a break. i am polish and in poland the driving test is way harder than it is here. people usually dont pass it on their first try. any little mistake and you fail and all the cars there are manual so i know what i am doing. people in europe drive faster and more aggresively and somehow get into less accidents. just because you passed the U.S. drivers test means nothing. in europe you have to parallel park 20 cm from the curb, pass a written test that is 50 questions out or a possible 300 so you dont know which test youare getting and so on and so forth. passing a test there means you are really able to drive a car. passing a test here means you stayed awake in drivers ed and can drive an auto like any other shmoe.
sorry about the long post but you guys wont hear from me again on this post.
sorry about the long post but you guys wont hear from me again on this post.
09-17-2003, 08:16 PM
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It's honestly not all that hard nowadays that minimum wage is constantly increasing and the kid has a great sense of money management. Anyone who is a teenager and has been saving up ever since they started working at, say, 16 for a decent car in the future can easily afford the STi. Say a kid lives at home_NO EXPENSES_ other than MAYBE a cell phone bill(20-40 bucks/month?) and just works, say for $8-9 bucks/hour for around 30-35 hours a week. That's a good $800-825 per month. True income has a lot to do with affording things, but income holds no place if the person making it doesn't know how to manage expenses. It is possible to afford an STi while you're still a teen given A LARGE SPECTRUM of variables:
-when you started working
-how well you started to save when you started working
-kind of promotion you've had over the years
-etc....
Basically, if some kid were to start 2-3 years ago for saving for a better car than the 'hand me down' hooptie, then it is possible. The only thing I'd worry about is insurance payments(and that too also depends on many things: insurance company, driving record, gender, how extensive the policy is..etc...)
BUUUT, if a teenager has a BAD driving record and BAD grades GOING INTO an STi, well, then I'd say parents would probably have to step in and help out.
All B.S. aside, I really could care less if some 17 year old kid were buy an STi or get it handed to them by mommy or daddy JUST AS LONG AS they KNOW what they truly have and retain a little respect for its capabilities by not driving like a complete idiot. There's nothing wrong with saving up way early in the game or being spoiled; just don't act like a pompous jerk or drive like a jackass.
-STiLL
-when you started working
-how well you started to save when you started working
-kind of promotion you've had over the years
-etc....
Basically, if some kid were to start 2-3 years ago for saving for a better car than the 'hand me down' hooptie, then it is possible. The only thing I'd worry about is insurance payments(and that too also depends on many things: insurance company, driving record, gender, how extensive the policy is..etc...)
BUUUT, if a teenager has a BAD driving record and BAD grades GOING INTO an STi, well, then I'd say parents would probably have to step in and help out.
All B.S. aside, I really could care less if some 17 year old kid were buy an STi or get it handed to them by mommy or daddy JUST AS LONG AS they KNOW what they truly have and retain a little respect for its capabilities by not driving like a complete idiot. There's nothing wrong with saving up way early in the game or being spoiled; just don't act like a pompous jerk or drive like a jackass.
-STiLL
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09-18-2003, 02:32 AM
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Bravo STiLL, I have no problem with young people owning an sti.
I just hate the attitude, "I earned this all by myself!" Sure you pay the payments, but if you were paying rent/bills/ect. by yourself would you still have the car? Just be humble.
Or the attitude of "handed on a silver platter rules."
Damn, "Polish man" passed the Polish driving test and is better than the rest of us dumb American drivers. He's ready to drive nascar already, we better not get in his way on the road guys.
Maybe you should put a bumper sticker on your wrx, "Passed the Polish drivers test."
I just hate the attitude, "I earned this all by myself!" Sure you pay the payments, but if you were paying rent/bills/ect. by yourself would you still have the car? Just be humble.
Or the attitude of "handed on a silver platter rules."
Damn, "Polish man" passed the Polish driving test and is better than the rest of us dumb American drivers. He's ready to drive nascar already, we better not get in his way on the road guys.
Maybe you should put a bumper sticker on your wrx, "Passed the Polish drivers test."