how will my subie do against these hybrid hondas?
01-04-2003, 06:42 PM
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how will my subie do against these hybrid hondas?
i just got a wrx and jesus christ this thing puuuuullls, much faster than my auto civic hatch, lol
anyway, ive got some honda people that wanna race me in order of fastet to slowest:
crx with b16 and bolt ons, plus wieght reduction
type r, with bolt ons and vafc
eg hatch with b16 and bolt ons
what will i do in a race to about 80???
yeah yeah yeah i know about the 'drive skills' factor, but lets just say everyone launches moderatly well in this scenareo
anyway, ive got some honda people that wanna race me in order of fastet to slowest:
crx with b16 and bolt ons, plus wieght reduction
type r, with bolt ons and vafc
eg hatch with b16 and bolt ons
what will i do in a race to about 80???
yeah yeah yeah i know about the 'drive skills' factor, but lets just say everyone launches moderatly well in this scenareo
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01-04-2003, 08:44 PM
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Ok, usually I'd tell you to stop being a wuss and just race, but because I happen to be up in my arms in a turbocharged integra, I'm partial to hondas and know more about them than any one man ever should.
CRX with the b16 could give you a run for you're money, its so goddam light that a freaking tailwind could make it run a 10 second quarter (j/k lol). Type R? You can probably take it, that cars all about quick steering and excellent cornerning, not straight line accel. The hatchback? Wave him buh bye as you walk in front of him.
Anyway, stop all this sillyness and race!
CRX with the b16 could give you a run for you're money, its so goddam light that a freaking tailwind could make it run a 10 second quarter (j/k lol). Type R? You can probably take it, that cars all about quick steering and excellent cornerning, not straight line accel. The hatchback? Wave him buh bye as you walk in front of him.
Anyway, stop all this sillyness and race!
01-05-2003, 07:00 AM
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thanks for the input, guys on other boards started to flame me with the same question! anyway, yeah i know i should get up and race em.... but its my first manual and i wanna get a decent consistent launch first
thanks man
thanks man
01-05-2003, 05:43 PM
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Guys on the other board were right. Who cares about your lousy pseudo-scientific street racing theories? Want answers? Go to a track. Light to light bull**** is meaningless, except to you Civic butt-breaths.
01-05-2003, 06:01 PM
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B16 CRX
MY buddy and I swapped in a B16 in a 89 CRX si, along with a i/e and mugen chipped computer. Him and I raced from a dead dig and a rolling start. Now the mods i had at the time were a MBC set at 16 psi and K&N panel filter with no resonater. Due to the wonderful AWD capabilities I whored him off the line and pulled thru 1st and 2nd. He was hanging till the end of the 1/4. Now from a roll, I hit the gas at 4k which is the peak torque, I pulled 3 cars on him before his vtec kicked in. Maybe cause hes a weak driver but I pulled on him hard! Hehe My .02 cents
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01-05-2003, 08:12 PM
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why all the hate? this is a friendly competition between me and 3 friends. Why cant 3 guys and a girl have a few pulls on an empty road? On second thought, dont even answer that becuase ive heard it all before, and DONT tell me its something youve never done before.
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01-06-2003, 07:01 PM
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people saying they've never raced their cars is as bad as the guys on ebay who modded the **** out of them then sya "never raced". Weather or not you ever went to a fulll fledged street race or you pulled up to a light with some cat and you just wanted to see who was quicker. Everyone does it.
What are the bolt-ons are we talking about greddy makes "bolt on turbos". Just run-em it'll be fun if you loose you loose.
What are the bolt-ons are we talking about greddy makes "bolt on turbos". Just run-em it'll be fun if you loose you loose.
01-06-2003, 08:03 PM
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i really wanna win, at least beat the type r and the hatchback.... when i say bolt ons, i mean the simple honda stuff... intake, exhaust, cams, header, etc etc...
theyve all got air/fuel/vtec controllers, but the type r has gotten some engine work, and the dirvers are all very experienced
thanks for the help
theyve all got air/fuel/vtec controllers, but the type r has gotten some engine work, and the dirvers are all very experienced
thanks for the help
01-06-2003, 11:53 PM
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on the b16 those are some pretty significant add ons weather you hate honda or not its true. stock for stock you can beat them all but with the mods it could go either way based on the quality of the aftermarket products. and then the fuel magement I'd say these guys can definately run with you. based on the fact that we loose more horspower to the wheels than they do. a b16 depending on the year already at 160hp. its realistic to say you can add 40hp with those mods if its done right. ie not putting a 3 and a quarter inch diameter exhaust system causing you to loose hp but getting the louder exhaust.
I had a DX and I did some research into that stuff. Then I decided it was gonna cost me meore money than i wanted to spend on a 12k car, so I threw out the idea and got a wrx.
Let them have therir victory for now (maybe) then spend the some cash on your ride and watch things change.
I had a DX and I did some research into that stuff. Then I decided it was gonna cost me meore money than i wanted to spend on a 12k car, so I threw out the idea and got a wrx.
Let them have therir victory for now (maybe) then spend the some cash on your ride and watch things change.
01-07-2003, 02:58 AM
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"they've all got air/fuel/vtec controllers, but the type r has gotten some engine work, and the drivers are all very experienced"
I've owned a Type-R with Skunk2 camshafts, Apex'i VAFC controller and the AEM CAI. I'll tell u... for one thing, I like the WRX much more. But with an R with those kinda mods... I'd have to say that the WRX still could beat the ITR. But with finer tuning with the R... I'd have to say that it'll become a "driver's" race.
The ITR is a track car outta the box. But the WRX can b made into a horrific beast to dominate!!!
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P.S. I'll b gettin the Vishnu chip upgrade this Friday!!!
I've owned a Type-R with Skunk2 camshafts, Apex'i VAFC controller and the AEM CAI. I'll tell u... for one thing, I like the WRX much more. But with an R with those kinda mods... I'd have to say that the WRX still could beat the ITR. But with finer tuning with the R... I'd have to say that it'll become a "driver's" race.
The ITR is a track car outta the box. But the WRX can b made into a horrific beast to dominate!!!
-Buzz
P.S. I'll b gettin the Vishnu chip upgrade this Friday!!!
01-08-2003, 12:43 PM
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When you race your buddies, remember to "slip" the clutch. AWD transmissions hate when you drop them. I usually rev to 3-3.3k rpms and then slip.
Race safe, race at the track.
When you race your buddies, remember to "slip" the clutch. AWD transmissions hate when you drop them. I usually rev to 3-3.3k rpms and then slip.
Race safe, race at the track.
01-08-2003, 04:38 PM
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Well i used to own a 97 prelude and i had all the bolt on mods, and a stock wrx and my modified prelude had about the same accelleration from a rolling start, but the problem came when i wanted seroius power,
The v-tec is not designed at all for forced induction, its a high compression engine, supercharging or turbo would greatly compromise the life of the engine, and ad complicated tuning then after u do use force induction on handas all i see is people spinning tires all though second gear with front wheel drive, BUT the wrx has sooo much greater potiential to work with, thats why i bought the WRX and got rid of my prelude.
The v-tec is not designed at all for forced induction, its a high compression engine, supercharging or turbo would greatly compromise the life of the engine, and ad complicated tuning then after u do use force induction on handas all i see is people spinning tires all though second gear with front wheel drive, BUT the wrx has sooo much greater potiential to work with, thats why i bought the WRX and got rid of my prelude.
01-09-2003, 05:30 PM
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ok, rev it to 3500rpm and slip it to start where the power band starts or rev it to 5 or 6000 rpm and slip to definetly get the jump?
if i did rev it that high, and im done with first gear real fast, and at the end of second gear im a little over 60 mph (ithink), then i would have to rely on a weak fourth gear in low rpms to bring me to 75 0r 80mph....
maybe i am totally off, but i was just thinking
and if it means wait until i get a mod or two, i will, i dont want to lose to any of them ever, i would much rather wait and beat them if i had to
you be the judge
if i did rev it that high, and im done with first gear real fast, and at the end of second gear im a little over 60 mph (ithink), then i would have to rely on a weak fourth gear in low rpms to bring me to 75 0r 80mph....
maybe i am totally off, but i was just thinking
and if it means wait until i get a mod or two, i will, i dont want to lose to any of them ever, i would much rather wait and beat them if i had to
you be the judge