As interesting as it will be to see how the Sti performs against the Evo stock for stock in acceleration,braking and stopping the real test will be to see which car is easier to modify. From what I hear Subaru engines are fairly difficult to work on compared to the much easier Mitsubishi. Does anyone know what size turbo comes on the stock Sti and also the Evo? Also, what size injectors come on the Sti? I know a few shops that have already gotten the Evo running 12.50's with just a turbo back exhaust, fuel computer and a boost controller. Cant wait to see what the Sti runs stock and also what it puts down on an AWD dyno. Should be very interesting.

 

Hard to work on Other than changing the turbo inlet pipe near worthless, IMO, injectors, and and spark plugs. I would think the WRX layout is one of the easiest. There is relatively (to other compact imports) plenty of room to work with. You have very easy access to the turbo. The uppipe and front sway bar aren't a lot of fun, but just about everything else is fairly simple

The Evo turbo seems to be a pain to get to. Plus it is of twin scroll variety. I don't know how that will affect turbo and piping upgrades. At least the spark plugs and injectors are easy to get too.

As for handling and cornering, I would love to see the STi match the performance of the Evo. I drove it, and it made my WRX with Koni inserts, MRT springs, endlinks, and rear sway bar feel a little clumbsy.

Power: The Evo is a low-end grunt monster. You can put down some impressive power without ever crossing 4000 rpm. After 5krpm, it didn't feel very strong to me. I've seen what a 2.5RS-T had to offer. I don't espect less of the Sti.

Steering: The Evo is a 3klb go cart. The car felt very darty to me at first. It took me bout 10 swconds of driving to get my hands and mind to drive the car straight. I had no complaint with the WRX, but shorter would be nice. I believe the STi's is shorter. I think the EVo's is too short for daily driving, but not so short that you can't get use to it.

STi dyno: There is supposedly an unamed reporter that took it to the dyno and the track. 250WHP and 13.0 in the 1/4. Neither the dyno brand, nor track name was mentioned. I personally see neither of these numbers unrealistic. I believe 12's are going to be doable bone stock with traps around 104mph. Timing, fuel, and boost mods with test pipe should be good for sub 12.5's. I believe 11's on the STi will be just as common as 12's are for the current WRX's.

 

We do not know for a fact that the Sti will be quicker. On paper it should be but we will not know anything for sure until the Sti's are out on the road. Both cars will be very easy to get into the 11's thats for sure. It will be interesting to see what the Sti's do on a dyno. Im sure they will have a much flatter torque curve than the Evo to.

 

the JDM STi has a VF34 turbo but i heard the US STi has a VF30....but it could be just a rumor which it probaly is.

i think the US STi will have a VF34 or VF35...but that is what i think which is probaly not right

-O4STi

 

I have now seen two Evo's run at the track near me in NY. One ran a 13.6 at 102 and the other ran a 13.7 at 101. The Sti should be quicker but we will have to wait until it is here to make official judgements. Dont believe what you read in the car magazines about quarter mile performance. Every single car that I have owned I have run quicker times than the magazines show. Keep in mind that the test cars that they use have all sorts of equipment on them making them heavier and a lot of times they get there times from a radar gun or vericom computer rather than at an actual dragstrip so times will vary. Either way the consumers are the ones that benefit by having a choice of two great cars.

 

Well just to give two of my own examples of what I was saying. I had a 95 Integra GSR that Motor trend got a 15.6 at 91mph out of. When I went to the track I ran consistent 15.30's at 93mph. I also had a 1994 Toyota Supra twin-turbo with the automatic tranny. Motor Trend ran 13.90's at 102 with there test car. I ran several 13.50's at 105mph with mine when it was bone stock. The list goes on and on. Motor Trend has consistently run high 13's with bone stock LS1 powered Camaros while they run low to mid 13's at the drag strip. While the magazines give you a great idea of what a car will run they are far from completely accurate. Now if Motor Trend were to test an Evolution against an Sti in the same issue and at the same track than you would be able to compare the results evenly. But unless they run the cars at the strip and not by using a radar gun or vericom computer than the 1/4 mile numbers they give will not give an accurate indication of what you will see at the drag strip.

 

... i don't think anyone here is very stuck on the motor trend alone


i for 1 subscribe to 6 different car magazines...


bunch of them free from some Free Trial blah blah thingies...

mix them together along w/ their respective history.

we get a pretty good picture.


this topic is too often fought over..
lets just lay it off for right now

 

I am not trying to knock the Sti at all. I think it is going to be an awesome car. All I am saying is that we wont know exactly what this car will do until we get it on a dyno and get official numbers and also get them to the strip. June cant get here soon enough.