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I have a borla hush.

the good:
very stealthy. not much louder than stock. nice deep tone and twin tips give stock like appearance. high quality stainless steel.

the bad (well not really bad, but could be better):
no robotic welds like many of the others so it doesn't look as neat. also it is not polished like others so not as bling. system uses band clamps so lining it up properly took a while. the hangers don't have flared ends so you have to use these crappy thingys to hold them in (like a serrated washer that's pushed on the end).

If you plan on getting a downpipe later which replaces the last cat then you might have issues matching the borla flange to a flat flange. Should be an easy fix at any muffler shop or get a dp which uses the donut gasket (PDE).

IMO, for the money it is a good system if you want a very stealthy 3" cat back.

 

haha, thats funny you think like that. I have a borla hush system i and i personally like it better than the others. It keeps the stock look, adds performance, and sounds wonderful. Im not into the loud mufflers like others. And plus it is a quality product which doesnt have the name "rice" on it.

 

What's wrong with Borla? I had a Tanabe prior to installing the Borla which was nice but I had to "compromise" with a less than 3" system and a louder exhaust so I changed to the Hush. I thought about the GReddy Evo but then I'd have to compromise and go without stainless steel pipes.

I don't understand your thinking. Sure the WRX is a "quality well-engineered car" but there are arguably better cars out there. Why in the world did you compromise in buying a WRX just to save a few bucks on a STi (or a Ferrari Enzo for that matter)?

 

The biggest reason many people like myself choose to purchase the Bolra Hush system over the "quality" Japanese exhausts (HKS, Blitz, Greddy) is the STEALTH factor. The exhaust is one of a few that offer 3" piping w/ the factory twin tip look.

If you ever look in the Bay Area board, there are numerous fellow I-Clubbers who have been hassled by cops about modified exhausts. They are starting to train officers on what to look for, especially the large canister type exhausts.

I'm happy w/ the Borla exhaust I have, especially being able to drive right by the Cal. Highway Patrol station near my house and having the officers not give me a second look.

-Soren

 

I personally have a hush (my 3rd exahust btw) now because it's stealthy, 3"piping all the way, low noise and well built for the price. It's no perrin catback regarding quality but it's pretty damn good regarding welds and design and it comes with a 1000000mile warranty. Just because Borla makes a good inexpensive product makes them cheap and unworthy?! This is where you're wrong...instead i think it's a great find and worth the money if you want what the hush system has to offer.

I no longer have to worry about CHP when i idle next to them at a red light and can actually hear passangers in my car without giving up power. The list goes on and on so don't knock it until you try it.

 

While I don't own a borla exhaust I would stand by them as a quality exhaust. They're solid stainless steel and carry a waranty that "nobody" beats. They have been around a long time and have flow numbers that will match or beat any manufacturer.
I loved the HKS cat back on my Galant VR4, until it rusted out in just 4 years.

 

Seems like you need to define what "rice" means. I know there was a thread that tried to answer that question, but I hardly think that adding a borla exhaust to one's WRX would be considered rice. The borla hush system looks completely stock, things added to a car that are considered "rice" attract attention themselves, example ugly body kit that is not color matched, or unmatching wheels. So if you are trying to say that adding a Borla hush is rice you cann't be basing that thought by looking at the way the hush system looks.

Other way to consider a piece of equipment "rice" is if that said product does not add a performance gains, in other words all show no go. Now I don't think there is anything wrong with adding some show, helps make one's car stand out, but the borla does add power to the WRX. I have the dyno plots to prove that. Since when is a product that actually produces good gains considered "rice"?

Oh and I like my Borla hush system very much, if you are interested SNOSERF, I will be driving down to SD after the March 22nd track event and I can take a weekend trip to Santa Barbara if ya want to check out the system for yourself. I can even bring the dyno sheets.

Jason

 

Yes and neither are they (WRX's) Murcielago's and Borla makes an exhuast for them.

Define "Good Stuff".

In an exhaust I would say the following would make for a good exhaust,

Full stainless design
Full flow tested with mufflers designed specific to the car not a generic one used on several applications
Ease of installation
Fitment with the application as designed
Factory backed support and warranty

We sell and stock HKS, Greddy, Blitz, Apexi, Fujutsubo, Perrin, Borla and only a few of them fit all of the above criteria (Borla being one of them).

As far as rice I would hardly call a stock looking twin tipped design that is hardly louder than stock rice, what's the 5" melon can thing then??? full blown Uncle Bens???

Just my 0.2c

Mike

 

I had some trouble getting the Borla system to clear the bolts on the rear differential guard. I managed to kinda get it to work but the tips are mis-aligned relative to the cutout in the rear bumper.

Does anybody have a trick to get around these bolt heads/diff guard (besides removing it completely) and keep the pipe from touching them?

Thanks,

Steve