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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 01:10 AM
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question for the 91-94 ej22 turbo legacys

what is the bolt pattern for the header exhaust manifold? for regular wrx's and sti's they have a 3 bolt pattern each side of the block. i have a impreza L with an ej22 but the header bolt pattern is different, there is only 2 bolts on each side. i was wondering if the ej22 turbo legacy had the same bolt pattern as my impreza so i can turbo it. i have a turbo up pipe, dp and exhaust, i'd just rather not have to make an exhaust manifold if i dont have to. thanks for your time
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 01:40 AM
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by xbass_playerx
what is the bolt pattern for the header exhaust manifold? for regular wrx's and sti's they have a 3 bolt pattern each side of the block. i have a impreza L with an ej22 but the header bolt pattern is different, there is only 2 bolts on each side. i was wondering if the ej22 turbo legacy had the same bolt pattern as my impreza so i can turbo it. i have a turbo up pipe, dp and exhaust, i'd just rather not have to make an exhaust manifold if i dont have to. thanks for your time
I'd recommend posting your question on bbs.legacycentral.com

I have a turbo legacy, but I'm not climbing underneath it right now and I can't remember
Old Jan 19, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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The real question is whether the Legacy si single or dual port. Your L only has 2 bolts because it's single port. If the EJ22T is dual port, I'd bet it's the same bolt pattern as all the other dual port heads.
Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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The real question is whether the Legacy si single or dual port. Your L only has 2 bolts because it's single port. If the EJ22T is dual port, I'd bet it's the same bolt pattern as all the other dual port heads.
lol ok i have a new question, is the ej22t legacy a single port or dual port? i knew what it was i just didnt know how to discribe it but i think that does it just fine.
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Legacy turbos are dual port.
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Legacy turbos are dual port.
man F this car. ok so here's my next question since that wont work and i dont feel like making custom headers. will the stock heads off a SOHC 2.5rs bolt directly on to my ej22 block? for some reason i believe someone told me before that it would.
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Some NA EJ22's and some EJ18's are the only single-port US heads. All of the turbo cars are dual-port configurations as far as I know.
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You can get all ej heads to bolt onto ej blocks.
The question is why would you?

If I'm reading you correctly, you want to turbocharge an NA motor.
This will end in failure, taking many dollars in the process.

The absolute, hands down, best way to turbocharge your car is to do a complete turbo powerplant swap: correct engine, harness, ecu, etc.

If you aren't willing to do it correctly, do not do it.
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
You can get all ej heads to bolt onto ej blocks.
The question is why would you?

If I'm reading you correctly, you want to turbocharge an NA motor.
This will end in failure, taking many dollars in the process.

The absolute, hands down, best way to turbocharge your car is to do a complete turbo powerplant swap: correct engine, harness, ecu, etc.

If you aren't willing to do it correctly, do not do it.
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Originally Posted by xbass_playerx
man F this car. ok so here's my next question since that wont work and i dont feel like making custom headers. will the stock heads off a SOHC 2.5rs bolt directly on to my ej22 block? for some reason i believe someone told me before that it would.
Find out if your engine is Phase I or Phase II. Phase I blocks bolt up to Phase I heads and Phase II blocks bolt up to Phase II heads.

There are some Phase I Sohc heads, but most phase I 2.5 heads are DOHC and are found on the '98 impreza and various LGTs.

I am not sure if you can mix and match different phase blocks/heads.

Putting 2.5 heads on your 2.2 will lower the compression ratio and thus the engine will receive boost much more effectively than your stock 9.7:1 ratio. Depending on what head gasket you run, the CR should be around 8:1, which is *ideal* for a turbocharged car.

Don't listen to the swap fanboys, boosting the n/a engines can be done very cheaply and very reliably. As long as you don't cheap out on your engine management, you could boost that stock ejj22e for years without problems. People don't seem to understand thatit all comes down to the TUNE.. You can buy the best set of forged pistons and rods on the market, but without a proper tune you will blow the engine sky high.

Granted, the n/a pistons/rods are not meant for high boost applications (ie 20+ psi of boost), but if you want to slap on a td04 and set the wastegate spring to 10psi, the n/a pistons will hold just fine. Just remember, tune it right!
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Phase 1: Collect Underpants
Phase 2: ????
Phase 3: Profit
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by svek
Find out if your engine is Phase I or Phase II. Phase I blocks bolt up to Phase I heads and Phase II blocks bolt up to Phase II heads.

There are some Phase I Sohc heads, but most phase I 2.5 heads are DOHC and are found on the '98 impreza and various LGTs.

I am not sure if you can mix and match different phase blocks/heads.

Putting 2.5 heads on your 2.2 will lower the compression ratio and thus the engine will receive boost much more effectively than your stock 9.7:1 ratio. Depending on what head gasket you run, the CR should be around 8:1, which is *ideal* for a turbocharged car.

Don't listen to the swap fanboys, boosting the n/a engines can be done very cheaply and very reliably. As long as you don't cheap out on your engine management, you could boost that stock ejj22e for years without problems. People don't seem to understand thatit all comes down to the TUNE.. You can buy the best set of forged pistons and rods on the market, but without a proper tune you will blow the engine sky high.

Granted, the n/a pistons/rods are not meant for high boost applications (ie 20+ psi of boost), but if you want to slap on a td04 and set the wastegate spring to 10psi, the n/a pistons will hold just fine. Just remember, tune it right!
thanks a lot man, that helped a lot. thats kind of what i figured. about lowering the compression with a thicker head gasket. i had planned on doing that. i can understand the swapping motors cuz that motor stock is turbo'd so its already made for the turbo so i do truely believe that is the safest way to turbo a car but i dont plan on pushing more than 8 psi. im not building a race car i just need more that 137 hp lol. and all but i just turbo'd a stock civic without decompressing the engine and everything turned out fine. im just tryin to get all my info together right now before i make the final decision on what im really going to do when i do go to do it. any ideas are good for me right now. whether agreed or not with what i want to do. i wanna get into more internal work on engines thats kinda why i wanna keep my engine. i can do a straight swap, but i've never done internal work on a car before besides adjusting valves. by taking off the heads i'll have the chance to completely **** around with them and learn more about how they work. then later i'll buy another ej22 block and drop better internals in that engine and swap that block. its not like this is all gonna be within the next month or so. i prolly wont even get the heads til mid summer or what not. so like i said i just wanna get all my info done right now.

how do i figure out what "phase" engine i have. i dont wanna go dohc just cuz i wanna keep it as close to stock as possible thats why i wanna go with the 2.5RS heads cuz they are SOHC as well. just let me know, thanks for the info.
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phase 2: get the **** out of there before she wakes up



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