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Originally Posted by Jakes02
I think he's talking about the picture of the Audi rim at the bottom. If you hit that lip in the road at a good speed I could see how the "fins" of the tire would flex enough that the rim would hit the road. The tire on the cat would not hit the road considering that it's only metal around the hub.
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Originally Posted by Jakes02
I think he's talking about the picture of the Audi rim at the bottom. If you hit that lip in the road at a good speed I could see how the "fins" of the tire would flex enough that the rim would hit the road. The tire on the cat would not hit the road considering that it's only metal around the hub.
however, im very interested to see how this could be applied to tractors and perhaps urban military vehicles.
we spend lots of time and money trying to stiffen our suspensions, why wouldnt you by a tire thats a floppy as a noodle? i doubt that there can be any performance and handling gains with something like that.
"available for low speed vehicles like the segway".... im sold. plus the video of the bobcat loader didnt impress me, if theres that much give at low speed on minor bumps what would it do with a full load in the bucket?
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The "new" tire design works in fundamentally the same manner as a pneumatic tire. What nobody ever realizes is that conventional pneumatic tires don't "holdup" the wheel from the bottom; rather, the wheel is suspended inside the tire and "hangs" from the top. Picture the outside tread pat of the Tweel design- not the radiating spokes, just the tread ring. Its natural shape is circular, right? Same as the tread around a conventional tire. If you cut the sidewall totally off of your standard tires, the remaining tead would still be round when you stand it up. If you then hang something from the top, what happens? The weight tries to pull down the topmost part of the circle, which causes it to lose its shape, and become shorter across the diamter vertically, and longer horizontally.
This is where the air pressure in pneumatic tires (and the steel/kevlar belts) and the rubber spokes in a Tweel come in. Both are mechanical systems for preventing that horizontal diamater from expanding. Since the diameter of the tread can't change, and the horizontal radius can't get larger, the vertical diamater is forced to stay relatively the same. The bulge at the bottom of a pneumatic tires comes from the same forces that "bulge" the bottom of of the Tweel.
This is where the air pressure in pneumatic tires (and the steel/kevlar belts) and the rubber spokes in a Tweel come in. Both are mechanical systems for preventing that horizontal diamater from expanding. Since the diameter of the tread can't change, and the horizontal radius can't get larger, the vertical diamater is forced to stay relatively the same. The bulge at the bottom of a pneumatic tires comes from the same forces that "bulge" the bottom of of the Tweel.
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Also, remember that the Tweel is a very new technology. Imagine where radial tires were as far as performance 50 years ago. I don't think it's farfetched to suggest Tweels may replace pneumatic tires in many applications in the near future, though not all.
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Also, remember that the Tweel is a very new technology. Imagine where radial tires were as far as performance 50 years ago. I don't think it's farfetched to suggest Tweels may replace pneumatic tires in many applications in the near future, though not all.
the wheel and tire are one peice. no matter how many contracts they get to make BBS/MoMO/Volk ect ect tweels theres no way they can match the fact that my wheels came from seattle, my tires came from roseville, and if i dont like the tires i dont need new wheels.
if the tweel design was crossplatform compatable (ie, i could stick tweels on my stockers) theres a chance they would do really well, but even my mower has seperate wheels and tires.
this doesnt even take into considderation things like tread patern (theres tons of propriatary tread paterns) and user prefference (you like michelin and i like bridgestone), or the fact that you loose the ability to adjust tire pressure for different conditions whichs means they wont make it on the track either.
besides think about all the sh*t blowing around on our roads that could get caught in there and how hard wheels are to clean already. can you even comprehend trying to apply tire shine to that thing?
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FYI, that's just the technology demonstrator. It has a greater impact when you see the open sidewall and how it works. Production models will have a conventional solid sidewall.
The real strength for these will be industrial uses, where you have vehicle-specific fitments and load ratings, so a specific wheel-tire combo is implied anyways. They're not meant for the performance market, as you simply can't get damping with a solid tire on a very short sidewall, as well as the fact that these are designed for areas where the need is for a low-maintenance setup. Most performance guys don't fit that profile. The passenger car applications are going to be geared to spare tires or fleet sales, where you'd have sets rotating on and off, getting sent in for refitting, etc.
The real strength for these will be industrial uses, where you have vehicle-specific fitments and load ratings, so a specific wheel-tire combo is implied anyways. They're not meant for the performance market, as you simply can't get damping with a solid tire on a very short sidewall, as well as the fact that these are designed for areas where the need is for a low-maintenance setup. Most performance guys don't fit that profile. The passenger car applications are going to be geared to spare tires or fleet sales, where you'd have sets rotating on and off, getting sent in for refitting, etc.
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Originally Posted by sybir
The real strength for these will be industrial uses, where you have vehicle-specific fitments and load ratings, so a specific wheel-tire combo is implied anyways. They're not meant for the performance market, as you simply can't get damping with a solid tire on a very short sidewall, as well as the fact that these are designed for areas where the need is for a low-maintenance setup. Most performance guys don't fit that profile. The passenger car applications are going to be geared to spare tires or fleet sales, where you'd have sets rotating on and off, getting sent in for refitting, etc.
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