"if you cry.. you are going to jail !"
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"if you cry.. you are going to jail !"
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=694504&page=1
Sounds like a setup to me.. funny how the camera caught everything on tape...
Originally Posted by ABC News
April 22, 2005 -- The videotaped altercation with a 5-year-old girl who was hauled off in handcuffs following an extended tantrum at her St. Petersburg, Fla., school has led to questions about whether the police overreacted.
The incident occurred March 14, and was captured on videotape because Fairmount Park Elementary School teacher Christina Ottersbach had set up a camcorder in her classroom. She wanted to record herself teaching so she could study her methods and learn how to improve, district officials told the St. Petersburg Times.
She ended up recording nearly a half-hour of video showing the girl alternately lashing out and quietly ignoring her teachers' instructions.
The footage starts in Ottersbach's classroom, where assistant principal Nicole Dibenedetto and teacher Patti Tsaousis were trying to calm the girl down and get her to clean up a mess that she had made.
Ottersbach is not in the room, having pulled her other students out of the classroom because of the girl's unseen outburst, leaving just the three.
"This is your mess to clean up. We need you to stop. You may not do this," Dibenedetto patiently but firmly told the girl, who stubbornly refused.
Eventually, the girl did start cleaning up the mess, but then she refused to leave the room. Only when Dibenedetto and Tsaousis asked her to make a choice before they counted to five did she finally leave with them.
Things evidently did not improve after that, however. The tape cuts to Dibenedetto's office, which has been trashed, apparently by the girl. She is seen ripping papers off the wall and refusing Dibenedetto's requests that she stay seated in a chair.
The girl even becomes violent at that point, taking numerous swings at Dibenedetto, who only puts her hands up to block the girl's punches.
The only other time the assistant principal touches the girl is when the child twice climbs onto a table, and the woman lifts her off and puts her back on the floor, on her feet.
Shortly after that, voices are heard saying that police have arrived. The girl sits down in the chair and remains there as three uniformed St. Petersburg police officers walk in.
"Do you remember me?" one of them asks the girl. "I'm the one who told your mom I'd put handcuffs on you."
The officers immediately pull the girl from the chair and handcuff her behind her back. The tape cuts off just seconds later, after the little girl has started screaming.
"The police officers' actions are way over the top. Three police officers having to forcibly handcuff a 5-year-old little girl? I mean, come on," said John Trevena, the family's attorney. "Is there anything more that needs to be said about that?"
He was also critical of the actions of Dibenedetto and Tsaousis, who he said could have done more to calm the girl.
"I'm concerned that the educators shadowed and hovered around the young girl," he said. "It certainly gives credence to the argument that they may have been provoking her to act out more. To me, it didn't look like a de-escalation. It looked like an escalation, an attempt to get her to act out more. I just don't understand why they didn't distance themselves back further and allow things to cool off."
No charges were filed against the girl, but Trevena promised legal action against the police department on behalf of the family.
Police would not comment on the incident, pending an internal investigation that department officials said would be completed within two weeks.
ABC News affiliate WFTS-TV in Tampa, Fla., contributed to this report.
The incident occurred March 14, and was captured on videotape because Fairmount Park Elementary School teacher Christina Ottersbach had set up a camcorder in her classroom. She wanted to record herself teaching so she could study her methods and learn how to improve, district officials told the St. Petersburg Times.
She ended up recording nearly a half-hour of video showing the girl alternately lashing out and quietly ignoring her teachers' instructions.
The footage starts in Ottersbach's classroom, where assistant principal Nicole Dibenedetto and teacher Patti Tsaousis were trying to calm the girl down and get her to clean up a mess that she had made.
Ottersbach is not in the room, having pulled her other students out of the classroom because of the girl's unseen outburst, leaving just the three.
"This is your mess to clean up. We need you to stop. You may not do this," Dibenedetto patiently but firmly told the girl, who stubbornly refused.
Eventually, the girl did start cleaning up the mess, but then she refused to leave the room. Only when Dibenedetto and Tsaousis asked her to make a choice before they counted to five did she finally leave with them.
Things evidently did not improve after that, however. The tape cuts to Dibenedetto's office, which has been trashed, apparently by the girl. She is seen ripping papers off the wall and refusing Dibenedetto's requests that she stay seated in a chair.
The girl even becomes violent at that point, taking numerous swings at Dibenedetto, who only puts her hands up to block the girl's punches.
The only other time the assistant principal touches the girl is when the child twice climbs onto a table, and the woman lifts her off and puts her back on the floor, on her feet.
Shortly after that, voices are heard saying that police have arrived. The girl sits down in the chair and remains there as three uniformed St. Petersburg police officers walk in.
"Do you remember me?" one of them asks the girl. "I'm the one who told your mom I'd put handcuffs on you."
The officers immediately pull the girl from the chair and handcuff her behind her back. The tape cuts off just seconds later, after the little girl has started screaming.
"The police officers' actions are way over the top. Three police officers having to forcibly handcuff a 5-year-old little girl? I mean, come on," said John Trevena, the family's attorney. "Is there anything more that needs to be said about that?"
He was also critical of the actions of Dibenedetto and Tsaousis, who he said could have done more to calm the girl.
"I'm concerned that the educators shadowed and hovered around the young girl," he said. "It certainly gives credence to the argument that they may have been provoking her to act out more. To me, it didn't look like a de-escalation. It looked like an escalation, an attempt to get her to act out more. I just don't understand why they didn't distance themselves back further and allow things to cool off."
No charges were filed against the girl, but Trevena promised legal action against the police department on behalf of the family.
Police would not comment on the incident, pending an internal investigation that department officials said would be completed within two weeks.
ABC News affiliate WFTS-TV in Tampa, Fla., contributed to this report.
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Originally Posted by Scott@S-S
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=694504&page=1
Sounds like a setup to me.. funny how the camera caught everything on tape...
Sounds like a setup to me.. funny how the camera caught everything on tape...
Personally I think they should have used the taser...
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Teachers are put in an aweful position in this country...
Not only are they expected to teach children how to read, write and do math, They are now expected to be experts in child behavioral psychology. Almost everything they do, day in and day out can be monday morning quarterbacked to death. If a kid comes in with a bruise on her arm, do you report it to the police? Well if you do, you are "Over reacting", if you don't and the child winds up dead people cry "Why didn't the teachers say something!?" In this case, what if the child went whacko and strangled another kid, well if you look at the tape you could go "Gee the teachers knew about her bhavior, why didn't they stop this! They should have called the police, what harm could that have done?".
And to think, they get to do all of this, after getting a 4 year degree, plus a requirement for continual education, all so they can make 1/3 what a prison guard does. They money, and the incentive to excel should go to those who can make a difference, not to those who are there to keep people locked up after it is too late.
Not only are they expected to teach children how to read, write and do math, They are now expected to be experts in child behavioral psychology. Almost everything they do, day in and day out can be monday morning quarterbacked to death. If a kid comes in with a bruise on her arm, do you report it to the police? Well if you do, you are "Over reacting", if you don't and the child winds up dead people cry "Why didn't the teachers say something!?" In this case, what if the child went whacko and strangled another kid, well if you look at the tape you could go "Gee the teachers knew about her bhavior, why didn't they stop this! They should have called the police, what harm could that have done?".
And to think, they get to do all of this, after getting a 4 year degree, plus a requirement for continual education, all so they can make 1/3 what a prison guard does. They money, and the incentive to excel should go to those who can make a difference, not to those who are there to keep people locked up after it is too late.
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Originally Posted by illy
And to think, they get to do all of this, after getting a 4 year degree, plus a requirement for continual education, all so they can make 1/3 what a prison guard does. They money, and the incentive to excel should go to those who can make a difference, not to those who are there to keep people locked up after it is too late.
Your average prison guard puts his/her life at risk every time they go to work, that can not be said for most teachers.
Prison guards deal most often with messed up adults while teachers deal most often with innocent little harmless children. I can understand 100% why prison guards get what they get when it comew to their paychecks - it is called hazard pay, plus they get the added benefit of beating down a lifer from time to time on top of that.
Teachers do not make enough for what they do, but I would not advocate taking money away from prison guards to pay teachers. That is just insane...
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Ali G......could that be a ***** of da week award? HAHA You crack me up........helmet wearing drooling retard........that was awesome, even better than me being a window licking retard.
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the thing about that article is that the arresting officer knows who this girl and has previously warned her and her mother.
"Do you remember me?" one of them asks the girl. "I'm the one who told your mom I'd put handcuffs on you."
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Originally Posted by ish
the thing about that article is that the arresting officer knows who this girl and has previously warned her and her mother.
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Originally Posted by Ali G
Wow, I would have never thought to equate what a teacher does to what a prison guard does. Probably because a helmet wearing drooling retard could have come up with a better arguement...