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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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anyone know off the top of their head.. ive heard that if you are not paid on payday you do not have to work until you get your paycheck. anyone know if this is true or not? ive searched (for like 2 mins, ill keep goin) but just seeing if anyone knew.

i was supposed to get my check on the 10th and i still didnt get it today, and dont feel like going to work tomara.
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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No, don't show up. You will be fine. You're trying to find a new job anyway.
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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Heh, even if that was a law (and I've never heard of it), using that as an excuse for not working is the quickest to way to a pink-slip for a non-essential employee
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by stupidchicken03
anyone know off the top of their head.. ive heard that if you are not paid on payday you do not have to work until you get your paycheck. anyone know if this is true or not? ive searched (for like 2 mins, ill keep goin) but just seeing if anyone knew.

i was supposed to get my check on the 10th and i still didnt get it today, and dont feel like going to work tomara.


this + your work thread = bigtime fail.
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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its somewhere in here:

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/di...0&file=200-243
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:06 PM
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this + your work thread = bigtime fail.
Agreed.

Her'es the thing. You either want this job, or you don't.

If you want this job, you shut up about how other people are getting promoted, you ask to take on new responsibilities, you stop maing eraser figures, and you forget about "i heard you don't legally have to" stuff. You also don't have to be employed. If you're a student employee, you're double-screwed, you have almost no employment rights.

I was basically running an IT shop when I was in college, and while it was assumed by the director of the department that I'd stay on full-time after I graduated, my immediate supervisor was under no obligation to continue my employment after I was no longer a student...........she saw the writing on the wall, knew her job was mine if I was still around, and decided she wanted to "give someone new an opportunity". You're an at-will employees andyour actions need to reflect that if you need the job.

If you want to go places as an employee, you don't get there by *****ing, ratting people out, or figuring out legal loopholes; finding a loophole just means your boss will find a loophole to get you gone because an employees who causes drama is more trouble then they're worth, especially when there's a surplus of candidates.

Sucks, but it's life. Good practice for dealing with corporate BS later on, unless you plan on running your own business your whole life.....
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sybir
Agreed.

Her'es the thing. You either want this job, or you don't.

If you want this job, you shut up about how other people are getting promoted, you ask to take on new responsibilities, you stop maing eraser figures, and you forget about "i heard you don't legally have to" stuff. You also don't have to be employed. If you're a student employee, you're double-screwed, you have almost no employment rights.

I was basically running an IT shop when I was in college, and while it was assumed by the director of the department that I'd stay on full-time after I graduated, my immediate supervisor was under no obligation to continue my employment after I was no longer a student...........she saw the writing on the wall, knew her job was mine if I was still around, and decided she wanted to "give someone new an opportunity". You're an at-will employees andyour actions need to reflect that if you need the job.

If you want to go places as an employee, you don't get there by *****ing, ratting people out, or figuring out legal loopholes; finding a loophole just means your boss will find a loophole to get you gone because an employees who causes drama is more trouble then they're worth, especially when there's a surplus of candidates.

Sucks, but it's life. Good practice for dealing with corporate BS later on, unless you plan on running your own business your whole life.....
I do want this job. I like working there, but i am tired of all this bull****. I know that no matter where you work, there is always going to be someone like "retard".

There are no promotions, either you are a student-employee or staff.
Im not mad that i personally did not get to become staff, just the fact that he was handed the position when there are others who are a much better choice for the job than he is.

Yes, i am a student-employee and i know we get shafted.. I dont want you to just think that im a total screw-off cuz im not. Im there ontime, when scheduled and get what needs to be done, done. I admit that i screw around at work when its "ok" to do so. Im sure that MAJORITY of people do this too.

Im not ratting "retard" out. This has been going on for at least 4 months and i have just come to the point that its gotten under my skin. Its not only me that is upset about it (there are about 6 or 7 others that are also PO'd), im just the only one your hearing from. We have talked straight to his face about how he is at work and he just does not see it (of course).

As for the legal loopholes, more of a joke than anything (hard to catch things like that sometimes when you write it) I dont plan on calling in unless i really do not feel physically able to work.
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:23 PM
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you can never win when you try to save face..
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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you can never win when you try to save face..
im not trying to win anything. I was pissed yesterday and made a rant. Now i am giving details on the situation. Take it how you want it (preferably not in the butt).
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:37 PM
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Heh, it's a ****ty situation. Problem is, if someone's already getting preferential treatment, the damage has been done; you're not going to have a lot of luck reaching the manager who's causing the issue. For better or for worse, unless there's an anonymous way to air grievances, you're going to be viewed as a problem for being the one to bring it up - after sending the email you did, your boss is going to be on the defensive big time.

Also, remember perceptions. Even if all your work is done, goofing off at work is going to send messages whether you like it or not. I could have all my stuff dialed for the day/week/month, and if my director walks by and sees me playing with office supplies, etc, he's going to form an opinion regardless of what other work I've done.

I'm not trying to imply your concerns aren't merited, but to management, you're a risk if you're viewed as the person organizing dissent, or directing attacks at someone who was promoted to a position you also have interest in. It's not right, but it's the reality.

You either grin and bear it, because it pays the bills, or you look for something else; it just seems like you're not going to get anything out of fighting the treatment this kid is getting besides a lack of references for your next job...........it's a fickle world.
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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Heh, it's a ****ty situation. Problem is, if someone's already getting preferential treatment, the damage has been done; you're not going to have a lot of luck reaching the manager who's causing the issue. For better or for worse, unless there's an anonymous way to air grievances, you're going to be viewed as a problem for being the one to bring it up - after sending the email you did, your boss is going to be on the defensive big time.

Also, remember perceptions. Even if all your work is done, goofing off at work is going to send messages whether you like it or not. I could have all my stuff dialed for the day/week/month, and if my director walks by and sees me playing with office supplies, etc, he's going to form an opinion regardless of what other work I've done.

I'm not trying to imply your concerns aren't merited, but to management, you're a risk if you're viewed as the person organizing dissent, or directing attacks at someone who was promoted to a position you also have interest in. It's not right, but it's the reality.

You either grin and bear it, because it pays the bills, or you look for something else; it just seems like you're not going to get anything out of fighting the treatment this kid is getting besides a lack of references for your next job...........it's a fickle world.
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