Pulley kits, any suggestions?
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Pulley kits, any suggestions?
I am looking at getting a pulley kit, or lightweight crank pulley for my 2.5RS. I have looked at Perrin's lightweight pulley, and GFBs pulley set. Also, flat4engineering.com has a set, but not sure. Does anybody have any suggestions?
I want a kit that gives more response from my engine, without making it so the accessories (radio, headlights,etc.) suffer poor effects at idle speed. Thanks!
I want a kit that gives more response from my engine, without making it so the accessories (radio, headlights,etc.) suffer poor effects at idle speed. Thanks!
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i have the grb pulleys in stock for 260. including the belt. gfb is all we use at flatirons imports. so if they pass the rigorous r&d of the dealership i would have to say they are the best fit and bet for ya.
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I was thinking of going with a lighter pulley too, but not underdriven. I've heard most of the power gained is from mass reduction anyway and since the belts on underdrives are not standard sizes they'd be a little harder to get when it comes time to replace them.
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Perrin lightweight pully is good because it's the same size as stock, so you don't have to change all of your belt.
Also, no one has said anything about damping... as far as I know, none of the pully's mentioned have sound dampners. Over time wont the pully's destroy your engine?
Also, no one has said anything about damping... as far as I know, none of the pully's mentioned have sound dampners. Over time wont the pully's destroy your engine?
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I didn't think that pulleys would destroy the engine, since a lightweight pulley simply makes your car run more efficiently. What exactly is necessary, regarding the sound dampening? Can someone please explain me this concept-I've never heard of it
Thanks again
Thanks again
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Subarus are internally balanced so the dampening is strictly for the more smooth feeling while running and comfortable idle. The GFB pulley set for your RS maximizes the weight savings by replacing the Crank, Alternator, and Power Steering pulleys. The main crank pulley is undersized; however, the alternator pulley is proportionally undersized thus, the rotational speed stays the same and no loss in alt output at idle. The belts are available from larger parts stores and worst case scenerio you have to order them with a day turn around. I would have a set of belts available anyway whether your car has aftermarket pulleys or is completely stock for the "just in case" circumstances.
The only downside to any LW pulley is a possible CEL caused by the engine revving and decellerating faster than the ECU sees as normal and turns on the light. Other than that I haven't seen any other issues.
Just my .02 worth
Troy
The only downside to any LW pulley is a possible CEL caused by the engine revving and decellerating faster than the ECU sees as normal and turns on the light. Other than that I haven't seen any other issues.
Just my .02 worth
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T-WRX450: You said that "Subarus are internally balanced so the dampening is strictly for the more smooth feeling while running and comfortable idle. " So your saying that a lightned assesory pully without a sound dampner is ok?
I thought that if you change the weight of the assesory pully you unbalance the engine. I know that the engine's come balanced from the factory, but without a sound dampner in the pully, does it not vibrate the engine apart?
I thought that if you change the weight of the assesory pully you unbalance the engine. I know that the engine's come balanced from the factory, but without a sound dampner in the pully, does it not vibrate the engine apart?
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The factory puts a heavier "dampened" pulley on to give the engine a smooth feeling idle because even though it is internally balanced, it still will have a little vibration. Just as the factory has a flywheel that weighs ~25 lbs, they use the momentum of a heavier component to smooth out operation. If you change the crank pulley without changing the flywheel then you will probably not even notice any change in vibration. The factory builds the car for regular people to be comfortable. We modify the car to have more performance and a pulley will provide better response.
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The factory puts a heavier "dampened" pulley on to give the engine a smooth feeling idle because even though it is internally balanced, it still will have a little vibration. Just as the factory has a flywheel that weighs ~25 lbs, they use the momentum of a heavier component to smooth out operation. If you change the crank pulley without changing the flywheel then you will probably not even notice any change in vibration. The factory builds the car for regular people to be comfortable. We modify the car to have more performance and a pulley will provide better response.
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Right on guys,
Just got my perrin pulley installed today, and it does accelerate smoother and a bit quicker now-its even more noticeable with the A/C on, the car doesn't feel bogged down by it. This is definitely a mod I recommend. No CEL either!
Just got my perrin pulley installed today, and it does accelerate smoother and a bit quicker now-its even more noticeable with the A/C on, the car doesn't feel bogged down by it. This is definitely a mod I recommend. No CEL either!