Burns returns to Subaru!
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Burns returns to Subaru!
http://www.wrc.com/en_GB/News/2003/0...OTHEFUTURE.htm
Life is good..............Glad to see Richard back in a Subaru!!
Life is good..............Glad to see Richard back in a Subaru!!
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Tommi retiring, and Burnsie coming back. Personally, I'm not that thrilled by this news. Burns is a good driver, but from all appearances a lousy teammate. He didn't seem to help Petter along at all when he was with the team before, and I doubt he will this time either. I only hope that Tommi stays involved with the team in a non-driving role.
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i'm not sure i'd agree with Burns being a lousy team mate. if you look at the teams, there are a lot of team mates that really don't help each other out at all. at Peugot, i don't think that there is much interaction between Burns, Gronholm and Rovanperra at all. for the most part, i think that Subaru is the exception and not the rule when it come to team mates collaborating with each other.
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My Richard Burns, is that normal? Seriously, other than an experienced teammate for Petter to talk to, Tommi has brought NOTHING to Subaru. Burns isn't my favorite driver either, and he may not be the best teammate. But he is consistent and he's a very good driver. He's a good addition.
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Yes, I agree, Tommi hasn't done much for the team either and Burns has been teammates w/ Petter before so things should go smoothly, not to mention the fact that it doesn't matter much in WRC. Now we just need a 3rd driver.
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i wouldn't count on Subaru fielding a third driver for next year, it can be pretty costly. i know the team has a budget, but they've run a two car team for what, the last three years?
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no kidding! what happens if they're third driver scores a podium in the middle of the season? i suppose that by the next season, they'd have to make changes to the driver lineup. i haven't read the new rules closely, but how hard would that be on a team boss? imagine you were ford last year with McRae, Saniz and Martin? what would you do if Martin finished on the box? i know it's not the best example since ford ditched both Sainz and McRae at the end of last season, but it gets you thinking...
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i don't think it's so much the cost of a third driver's salary, but the cost of the car, spares, and the mehanics to support the third driver.
WRC teams have huge staffs, i'd guess it probably takes at least twenty or thirty people to support a driver on a multi car team like subaru. you've got the mechanics that work on the car at service, suspension techs, tire techs, data logging people, stage reccy crews, the list just goes on and on. compared to this a third driver's salary isn't that much.
oh yeah, and it's another $80k per gearbox that they break
WRC teams have huge staffs, i'd guess it probably takes at least twenty or thirty people to support a driver on a multi car team like subaru. you've got the mechanics that work on the car at service, suspension techs, tire techs, data logging people, stage reccy crews, the list just goes on and on. compared to this a third driver's salary isn't that much.
oh yeah, and it's another $80k per gearbox that they break
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from reading the latest issue of RallyXS mag., when asked if he would continue in some way with rally out of the car, Tommi said no, he would rather start something new. obviously continuing to follow the WRC, but not opting for a team boss, or advisor.
the subject about a 3rd suby driver was mentioned. david lapworth said, they would like to, and it could happen in this season. all three names mentioned were from the JWRC i think.
i think having Burns will helpful to subaru. it would be nice to have another driver whos there to win, and not just going through the season deciding whether or not to retire. we'll have to wait and see how things turn out!!
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the subject about a 3rd suby driver was mentioned. david lapworth said, they would like to, and it could happen in this season. all three names mentioned were from the JWRC i think.
i think having Burns will helpful to subaru. it would be nice to have another driver whos there to win, and not just going through the season deciding whether or not to retire. we'll have to wait and see how things turn out!!
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the subject about a 3rd suby driver was mentioned. david lapworth said, they would like to, and it could happen in this season. all three names mentioned were from the JWRC i think.
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i think that's what the WRC/FIM are going for with the new rule change. it's hard to get a factory ride in the WRC, but this new rule makes it a lot easier, by encouraging teams to pick up young, up and coming drivers. guys like Miko Hirvonen, and whoever the Mitsubishi driver was last year in Australia that hauled a$$ before crashing out are really going to benefit from this rule.
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hopefully Ramana Lageman (scca pro rally, suby driver) will someday make it to the wrc. he ran group n at new zealand or maybe argentina, and did quite well. and hes going to europe for rally of great brittain. how cool would to have a US driver in the mix! the last one was tim o'neil in '90....
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