I disagree, if you hit a curb, your car is going to get damaged heavily no matter what, the endlinks breaking aren't a good excuse not to buy solid ones, not crashing is the answer

all solid endlinks still have "Flex" in them, the flex is where they bolt up to the swaybay, the whitline endlinks still have rubber (stiffer) where you put the bolt to connect the endlink --> bar, so it will still flex under "spirited" driving, same with the perrin / helix, because the bearings still move... having the "U" not flexing is a good thing, it makes the swaybar react faster, this is the same reason why ppl buy STi engine / Tranny mounts, it stops the Initial Twist which makes response faster when you blip the throttle to revmatch etc... same with a swaybay when you turn the steering wheel,

thats my 2cents, also if endlinks weren't needed, why would whiteline, perrin, karboy, helix, etc. etc. all make them...and gary sheehan uses them on his race car... imo they are very good, I love mine and they aren't that expensive, so go for it

 

I have a set of brand new MRT endlinks (open package item) for $80. They are BLUE, so they will match your Cusco swaybar. Let me know if you want them.

-Soren

 

GAH!! i want em! send pics please.

lunalee@sbcglobal.net

 

um. since everyone is here....

MRTs any good? is that what i'm looking for? i'm saying yes because it's blue.

Imprezer makes some really good points. But it would seem like they have aftermarket endlinks for a reason.

thanks for the info guys.

 

Pic just for you (Not my car) I have Helix links.

 

Well, of course depends how hard you hit. But your stock parts are designed to bend and snap and not cause damage to other parts. Like your lower control arm, they are design to bend unlike the "competition"aluminum ones. Same goes for the rear lateral links and trailing arms. I have seen and worked on cars that both had and had not have the end links, so I am not just pulling this out of my rear.

Like I said, the U shaped end links will bind. If you have a very skinny car I can get them to bind by twisting the bar by hand. The front or the STi rear straigh end links will not bind.

Why? Because of people like you that buy them. Why isn't there a company in Japan (besides Prova, that makes competiton parts) that sell those? And, do not compare race cars to street cars. Gary Sheehans car is so low, his coilovers and his sway bars are so stiff, that the bar barely sees any movement at all.


Remember this:

There are parts that you need and there are parts you don't need. Sure, you can buy them all.

Flex is flex. Sometimes you want it, and sometimes you don't.

 

we all know the stock U's bind, and if flex was needed, why did they change it for the STi which has more aggressive suspension? hint hint

Is japan the center of the universe? Whiteline and MRT probably do more R&D on subaru suspension than any japanese company you can name, and each part does its job accordingly, But the point here is that you say endlinks aren't needed, but weren't you the one who also posted a while back that every little bar / bushing stiffens up your ride and helps ( unless your going back on that ), well this is one of those things, countless ppl have gotten these and agree that their car reacts faster. And i bet if cusco made endlinks, you'd have them on your car solid or not.

I was just pointing out that the #1 road race Subaru driver, has solid endlinks, so I believe that if he endorses them, then it'll sell more than "you need flex" from Imprezer

 

thank you very much. Cool. They should sorta match the CUSCOs... too bad they are sorta ugly.

so i still don't get the difference between the endlinks out there. Aren't they all "solid"?

 

stop worrying about how they look, u can't even see em

 

thanks zoeb. haha. you're right.

anyhoo. i'm just waiting for MPJ to get back to me... maybe i can get a deal with a CUSCO rear sway.

i'm wondering. Lets say we do need some flex... how much stress can the stock endlinks hold? seems like they would snap. heh. pretty hardcore driving ..haha.

 

i haven't snapped any yet.

 

this has to be the first time i've seen someone buy endlinks based on looks.

 

. yeh. stupid me. i don't belong in a performance car. haha.
anyhoo. changed my mind. i'll just get whatever is good and cheap.

thanks guys.

 

Like I said, the straight endlinks work good. That is why they changed them on the STi. Becuase they wanted more agressive handling, which cannot be achived with the U-shaped endlink. Solid or not.

Japan is the center of the universe when it comes to tuning WRX's. But thats a whole different argument. It was simply a comeback to yours "they make it, so they must be good" comment.

I am not going back on that. When I said that, I beleive I was referring to the chassis bracing, not end links.

This is my opinion on endlinks. You don't have to agree with me. I was asked an opinion and I gave it. You cannot prove me wrong, as there is no right and wrong here.

Just like I said, he uses them on his race car. That is not to say that a street car will benefit from them. Endorsing and using them are two different things.

I don't wanna keep massaging this. I made my point. I have reasons behind it. You made yours. Now, it is his choice what he wants to do.