Bringing this thread back. more and more im veering away from the grids. i love the look of them, but it seems torques and i are meant to be. LOL. im looking to trade my 18x9.5 et38 pcd 5x100 rota grids for a set of 18x9/9.5 et 30-35 same pcd. i would prefer black torques. but someone has some rashed torques ill take those plus cash for the grids. let me know whos got what. thanks!