i have nothing against the millitary or marines. Its the few bad apples that have ruin it for me and some friends.

no mater where you go or what occupation you have there are bad apples. face it.

from cops who run red lights

to presidents who try to lie about sex with an intern.

senators who commit war crime and fraud.

to trusties that break the law.

movie stars who have sex with prostitues.

speaking of fraud lets not forget a nice girl who is goin through the system now for stealing, imbezelment, and accepting unclaimed money. but hey she can't be guilty. i don't really care she was nice to me.

sure everyone is perfect.

 

Are you just trying to **** me off!!! Stop stereotyping the military, If you have a complaint about it the call military information and get the number to NCIS and ask them to check it out. Stop putting the blame on everyone!!! Your a Jackass!!!!!


First off you are an idiot!!

Second I have use my POV for military perposes and been paid to do so. You have no idea how the military works so SHUT UP!!

Third military people are people just like everyone else...some of them steal **** HAPPENS get over it. It's not right. Make a complaint with the Inspector General of MCBH.


Fourth if you were in the military and ever worked with other militaries you would know how great our military is. PEOPLE ARE HUMAN GET OVER IT!!!

Yet again you are an idiot!!! You never sease to amaze me of how late 80's you think.

DEAN YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON IN HAWAII TO EVER **** ME OFF!!! GO HOME AND SHUT UP!!!!

Mike

 

I just talked with my roommate who is a biker, He said that a while ago there was an issue about the toys going off island, but that has been taken care of.

He also said that if you have any proof you should contact the Street Bikers United President and he will take care of it.

 

80's ?? thats new to me as far as i know it all happend in the 90s till now.

it pleases me that i make you mad. i'm feeling even better rite now as i type this. infact i hope you hate me till you die. cause now i know i've acomplished something.

if you bother to read what i write. it is about the bad apples. the military as a whole should know what their men are doing. if a company worker fu cks up they not only go after that worker but also the company. so face it! What these guys were seen doing IS a reflection of the marine corp. The marines as a whole are great and don't twist that around.

i am over it. i'm not stereo typing the military not one of my post has said that. but the millitary should take note and know what their employes are doing.

oh let me thank you about clearing up the use of private vehicles and about the toys. its good to know that.

oh and by the way telling me to go home is funny. i am home. haha. where you from again? when's your tour here over? i'll help you pack. (i love your rants so take care and reply soon)

 

Dean, you have NO proof of what you're saying, ... so yes, drop it.

Pat talked to The man in charge of the toys for tots, and was assured nothing like that was happening. Of course he could be a lier too, right? So to make sure, we'll even check into it further.

it's funny how people talk on the internet, they grow such big *****. The thing is, ... Most people are thousands of miles away from each other, .... while we are Very close .....
Dean, your attitude will be taken care of. I amazes me that a fat little kid will talk like that.

 

its funny how bias you are i know you are in the millitary and i won't be suprised if you are in the marines.

i hope i a wrong about the whole situation. but like i said i stand by my friends who seen it first hand. i hope that Pat got accurate info too. I've done the bike run since 95 and both since 02. i have a right to be mad at the allegations and tend to make a few calls.

for the second time i am happy that you don't like me. like i give a rats a$$ how i make you feel. i'm a fat kid? humm thats new to me. you'll take care of me how? can't handel the net or are you just home sick for the holidays and a bit pissy? cause if thats the case i recomend a transfer.

if there is something you'd like to say just come out and bring it don't beat around the bush. unlike you it won't affect my feelings.

have a nice day.

 

Saying military generally like you are is stereotypical. I know I've seen it all over the world.

No one in my knowledge is taking toys home or anywhere for that mater in the private vehicales, But some of us use our POV for military perposes.

As far as my home, I am home. My home is where I take my boots off because that is what Uncle Sam pays me to do. Let me guess your home is with mommy and daddy!

If it would please you to find out the truth I will ask my friend at NCIS to check it out then the you can finally stop saying the military should do this or the military should do that. But wait, as far as I've seen the only people that have checked into the whole thing is a few military people that have absoutly nothing to do with the situation(thanks Pat). So how about you do some of you own investigative work and find out for yourself.

The phone number to Military Informaition is : 449.7110 they can give you the number to NCIS or to the IG on K-bay.

 

ALRIGHT ALREADY!!!! ENOUGH OF THIS ****!!!

I've read through this damn post entirely. At first I was appalled at what chillN wrote...I was shocked that something like this could happen. Then I thought about it...I highly doubt that these people, Marines, those who are paid to protect our country and our freedom, would do such a thing. If they did, then in time, they will get theirs.If you had pictures of it, then that's a different story. chillN, you don't have pictures and I really don't care who told you this. As far as I'm concerned, it didn't happen.


I was born and raised here. I may be haole, but I'm local...and I have no problem with the military...for cripe's sake, I'm trying to become a military aviator. I will NOT allow someone, ANYONE in this forum to badmouth the military or talk **** about them, especially when there os no solid proof. Your arguments about our former president being almost impeached has NOTHING to do with the military. I'll give you a dollar to buy a clue and another dollar to start your college education fund so you can go to college and learn how to create arguments that make SENSE.

On another note, at least these military guys you are verbally assaulting were out there giving their time and gifts to help out the needy. Where the f*ck were you sunday morning? Working? Ok...whatever. Don't EVER talk to these guys like that...especially 18hr, NoLimit, Mach5 and all the other military guys that frequent this site. You are lucky to live in a country where you have the freedom to talk **** like this- because they VOLUNTEERED. Why don't you get your *** in gear and join up...or are you going to offer some lame *** excuse why you can't. You seem so hell-bent on attacking them as a whole because of one or two idiots (regarding something that may not have even happened). They are and have become my best friends...something that you could never do even though I've known you for a few years now, and we have butted heads in the past. I've warmed up to you recently, but this pushes me over the edge. Up yours dude...and if you even think about attacking me personally, be a man and say it to my face. I'm sure some of these military guys would like to see if you could do that with them as well...

 

handle the net? what the hell are you talking about?
If you said this in front of us, you're *** would be beat, that's all I'm saying. And unfortunatley, I probably wouldn't even get to participate b/c I know others would jump at the opportunity faster! You don't get it, do you? Nothing you say makes a difference to me(or probably anybody), just look at it like another problem to take care of.

I'm in the Navy btw.

Like I said, we will be checking into the accusations. Hopefully we will be able to find some facts to solve the mystery. They will go down in flames if they in fact did what is accused.

home sick? Do you know anything about me? No. Do you know when I even left home, or when the last time I was home? No.

Like Mike said, our home is were we lay our heads. We get paid to serve and protect, to be where we're needed when we're needed.

 

 

This is getting all out of hand. i don't care what you have planed for the next time you see me. or what you claim you would do if i were there in person.

the facts are the same. people claim that soldiers were stealing toys. they have nothing to gain nor did they take channels to correct this.

but these people feel so strongly that they won't ride with toys for totts anymore even tho they help put it on. that says alot.

i'll say this for the last time i hope we are majorly wrong.

for everyone else. sorry its gotten out of hand. i know some won't reply to a tread like this. just keep an open mind about it. I'm sure some of your toys are being used. can't steal all of them ya know. i just now refuse to let them have a chance to steal one of mine.

and so you know the bike run ment alot to me and my friends. it is the largest bike gathering in hawaii with riders flying their bikes from the outer islands too. so to not go does hurt me too. but i'm even more sad about any kid here or anywhere in america that is being robbed by even one person.

 

what are you talking about? play? who's playing?

How about being useful??

What Marine Base did this happen on?
When did it happen?
Where was it viewed from?
What did the cars that were used look like?
And how many?

 

First of all, WillRX, you're a gentleman. I appreciate what you said.

Second, I only wrote what I did and called GySGT Flagg not because of toys being stolen from some needy children (because I was pretty certain that that wasn't happening) but because I care deeply about our nations fighting men. And get it straight, whoever was seen doing whatever on MCBH, Kaneohe weren't soldiers, they were Marines. A very proud group who would be offended by the slight.

Although I'm not a Marine, I care as deeply for their organization as my own as they are fellow protectors of our great nation, to include Hawaii. As a side note, I didn't appreciate what you said to Mike, either, about helping him pack because I know what you meant. Isn't that 'Yankee go home' stuff a little old? Why is it that we as soldiers don't experience that same hate against the military when we have a post in Washington state, NC, or Tenn? What gives with the Hawaiian anti-military sentiment. Well, I'm getting off topic, but I know that ChillN is just on that same bandwagon but probably hasn't formed any of his opinions on much of anything.

Lastly, I certainly hope, and I definitely doubt that any violence would occur over an argument as silly as this, but dude, think about what you say. Like I said before, if you have a problem with the Marine Corps, address the Marine Corps. This was like starting a fight because of something someone told someone else that someone's sister saw someone kick your 3rd cousin's dog.

 

you should know that i am part white on my mom's side. i'm not racist or think in that yankee go home mentality. i have family in the armed forces also. so don't lable me as a local boy type militatry hater. also my job requiers me to be around more millitary personel then you know of. so don't think i am trying to disrespect the armed forces. its not the topic of this post.

Like i said some of the post here have goten out of hand. but i'm not the one who started the name calling. i understand you guys need to stick together in all this. but if you're goin to tell me to **** you. the you know what **** you too. if you don't like me or what i have to post then what are you goin to do about it? name calling thats it? fine. i feel who ever talks in this fashion should beable to handle what comes back. but AGAIN it has gotten out of hand.

for i don't know how many times i have to say this i hope my friends are wrong. but i feel strongly aslo in what they claim to have seen.


in hopes of closing this you are right the marines can not by any chance what so ever to have bad, corupe, theiving lying, cheating marines that have the capability to steal.

i won't forget what you all have taught me that each and every marine is a sample of perfetion.

sorry to have rubbed the marines name in the mud i forgot they are perfect.

(this gook says have nice day G I)

 

i would pm you but there is no button yet. so i'll put it here.

i appriciate what you are trying to do to clear this up. and i do hope everything you have found out is correct. but as i said i do believe there was a chance that bad apples have stolen from the t4t. my friends claim to have seen it first hand and tell me they will no loger ride along with their friends says alot to me. this t4t ride is what we bikers wait for all year its the stourges (sp) of hawaii.

you are right where it is hearsay. but the source for myself is as good as it gets. these guys that told me have never done me wrong or lead me wrong.

and also to let you know they saw it in the previous years. I''ll try to see them soon so i can get more info on what was goin on with what they saw. till then thanks for your own time investigating these acusations.

(the ride this year is on 12-5-02)