Just a Friendly Warning to all WRX owners!!!!
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Originally posted by sub-sonic
just bring it to Waipahu.. dont worry about your stuffs. As long as you are not claiming warranty "related" to the modification.
just bring it to Waipahu.. dont worry about your stuffs. As long as you are not claiming warranty "related" to the modification.
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Originally posted by mellowwrx54
do you guys think that if i buy an ACT clutch that they would intall it for me and not void the warrenty?
do you guys think that if i buy an ACT clutch that they would intall it for me and not void the warrenty?
Jeff's right, ... especially if you don't know how to drive.(and I don't mean if you think you know how to drive!)
the stock clutch actually holds up pretty well for the basic bolt-on's, or the "stage 4's" for most people.
the stock clutch actually holds up pretty well for the basic bolt-on's, or the "stage 4's" for most people.
You know, I heard that if you even let a friend look at your Subaru they will void the warranty. Sunzab*tches!
sinced this thread had started, there have been a lot of modified
wrxs and rss that came to Waipahu for service. Some have exhaust system thats so loud that it rattled the crap out of Chris' pet fishes in their aquarium. He did not even bother to look nor ask
about those cars. So if your around our neigborhood stop by and
say hi to the crew, or even stay awhile to talk story and drink our nasty coffee. If your around the Beretania shop, well you can stop by and give them a piece of your mind, and flick them the bird as you leave- no! just kidding dont do that hehehe! I'll just add more nails to the coffin. Or you can post a comment at www.schumancarriage.com - i think they have a guest book.
wrxs and rss that came to Waipahu for service. Some have exhaust system thats so loud that it rattled the crap out of Chris' pet fishes in their aquarium. He did not even bother to look nor ask
about those cars. So if your around our neigborhood stop by and
say hi to the crew, or even stay awhile to talk story and drink our nasty coffee. If your around the Beretania shop, well you can stop by and give them a piece of your mind, and flick them the bird as you leave- no! just kidding dont do that hehehe! I'll just add more nails to the coffin. Or you can post a comment at www.schumancarriage.com - i think they have a guest book.
Last edited by sub-sonic; Feb 1, 2003 at 12:49 AM.
It's reassuring to know that there's a dealership out there that's cool about modified cars. Helps me to know that I can upgrade my car, and the dealer won't give me grief. Of course, I'm referring to Waipahu Subaru, and not the frickin' entire Schuman business (which blows!).
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It all comes down to, if the dealer voids your warranty because of aftermarket parts, you need to get it in writting from the service manager stating that your afftermarket intake, turbo timer, coilovers, muffler bearings, or blinker fluid caused the failure you brought the car in for. Just in case.........
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Huh?!!
WTF!! Are you serious!! I just bought my '03 WRX Wagon from South Coast Subaru (in Orange County, CA) with 5zigen cat-back exhaust, rims, and coil-overs. Does that mean I'm SOL when it comes to warranty repairs?! They had a few other new '03 cars in there that were waaaaay out-of-control. BOV, Cat-backs, Boost Controllers, coil-overs, HID's, etc, etc. They didn't say anything about these mods voiding the warranty though.
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Re: Huh?!!
Originally posted by uluafishing
WTF!! Are you serious!! I just bought my '03 WRX Wagon from South Coast Subaru (in Orange County, CA) with 5zigen cat-back exhaust, rims, and coil-overs. Does that mean I'm SOL when it comes to warranty repairs?! They had a few other new '03 cars in there that were waaaaay out-of-control. BOV, Cat-backs, Boost Controllers, coil-overs, HID's, etc, etc. They didn't say anything about these mods voiding the warranty though.
Aloha!
WTF!! Are you serious!! I just bought my '03 WRX Wagon from South Coast Subaru (in Orange County, CA) with 5zigen cat-back exhaust, rims, and coil-overs. Does that mean I'm SOL when it comes to warranty repairs?! They had a few other new '03 cars in there that were waaaaay out-of-control. BOV, Cat-backs, Boost Controllers, coil-overs, HID's, etc, etc. They didn't say anything about these mods voiding the warranty though.
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Dealerships have nothing to do with saying if your warranty is valid or not. That comes from the distributor/manufacturer.
When a dealership does a warranty repair, it has to submit a claim/data to the distributor and/or manufacturer to get reimbursed on that repair.
The dealership didn't source the parts, hire the workers, make the car, or provide you the warranty.
It sounds nitpicky - but understanding how the system works gives you an idea why dealerships are such hard-asses about warranty.
If they bust your ***** about mods, it's because if they make the claim for your warranty work to the manufcaturer and it gets rejected for whatever reason - the store is S.O.L. and has to pay for the repair out of it's own pocket.
We are just lucky to have cool guys workin' for one of the dealer's here. Kudos!
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When a dealership does a warranty repair, it has to submit a claim/data to the distributor and/or manufacturer to get reimbursed on that repair.
The dealership didn't source the parts, hire the workers, make the car, or provide you the warranty.
It sounds nitpicky - but understanding how the system works gives you an idea why dealerships are such hard-asses about warranty.
If they bust your ***** about mods, it's because if they make the claim for your warranty work to the manufcaturer and it gets rejected for whatever reason - the store is S.O.L. and has to pay for the repair out of it's own pocket.
We are just lucky to have cool guys workin' for one of the dealer's here. Kudos!
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Originally posted by IS2Scooby
We are just lucky to have cool guys workin' for one of the dealer's here. Kudos!
We are just lucky to have cool guys workin' for one of the dealer's here. Kudos!
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I found this on TundraSolutions.com.
Pay particular attention to Item # 1 "The law means that the use of an aftermarket part alone is not cause for denying the warranty."
Federal Warranty Laws
1.The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C))
This federal law regulates warranties for the protection of consumers. The essence of the law concerning aftermarket auto parts is that a vehicle manufacturer may not condition a written or implied warranty on the consumers using parts or services which are identified by brand, trade, or corporate name (such as the vehicle maker's brand) unless the parts or service are provided free of charge. The law means that the use of an aftermarket part alone is not cause for denying the warranty. However, the law's protection does not extend to aftermarket parts in situations where such parts actually caused the damage being claimed under the warranty. Further, consumers are advised to be aware of any specific terms or conditions stated in the warranty which may result in its being voided. The law states in relevant part:
“No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name...” (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).
2. Clean Air Act Warranty Provisions (42 U.S.C. S 7541 (C) (3) (B))
The federal Clean Air Act requires vehicle makers to provide two emissions-related warranties -- a production warranty and a performance warranty. The production warranty requires the vehicle maker to warrant that the vehicle is designed, built and equipped so that it conforms with emissions requirements at the time of sale. The performance warranty requires the vehicle maker to warrant that the vehicle will comply with applicable emissions requirements as tested under state vehicle emissions inspection programs for the warranty periods specified in the law (for model year 1995 and later vehicles, the warranty is 2 years/24,000 miles for all emissions-related parts and 8 years/80,000 miles for the catalytic converter, electronic emissions control unit and on-board diagnostic device). The performance warranty is conditioned on the vehicle being properly maintained and operated.
Like the Magnuson-Moss Act, vehicle manufacturers may not refuse warranty repairs under the Clean Air Acts performance and defect warranties merely because aftermarket parts have been installed on the vehicle. The only circumstance under which the vehicle manufacturer can void the emissions warranties is if an aftermarket part is responsible for (causes) the warranty claim.
IF YOU ARE DENIED WARRANTY WORK, ACCESS THE LINK BELOW.
http://www.sema.org/content/?ID=2223...arranty+denied
ALOHA!
Pay particular attention to Item # 1 "The law means that the use of an aftermarket part alone is not cause for denying the warranty."
Federal Warranty Laws
1.The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C))
This federal law regulates warranties for the protection of consumers. The essence of the law concerning aftermarket auto parts is that a vehicle manufacturer may not condition a written or implied warranty on the consumers using parts or services which are identified by brand, trade, or corporate name (such as the vehicle maker's brand) unless the parts or service are provided free of charge. The law means that the use of an aftermarket part alone is not cause for denying the warranty. However, the law's protection does not extend to aftermarket parts in situations where such parts actually caused the damage being claimed under the warranty. Further, consumers are advised to be aware of any specific terms or conditions stated in the warranty which may result in its being voided. The law states in relevant part:
“No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name...” (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).
2. Clean Air Act Warranty Provisions (42 U.S.C. S 7541 (C) (3) (B))
The federal Clean Air Act requires vehicle makers to provide two emissions-related warranties -- a production warranty and a performance warranty. The production warranty requires the vehicle maker to warrant that the vehicle is designed, built and equipped so that it conforms with emissions requirements at the time of sale. The performance warranty requires the vehicle maker to warrant that the vehicle will comply with applicable emissions requirements as tested under state vehicle emissions inspection programs for the warranty periods specified in the law (for model year 1995 and later vehicles, the warranty is 2 years/24,000 miles for all emissions-related parts and 8 years/80,000 miles for the catalytic converter, electronic emissions control unit and on-board diagnostic device). The performance warranty is conditioned on the vehicle being properly maintained and operated.
Like the Magnuson-Moss Act, vehicle manufacturers may not refuse warranty repairs under the Clean Air Acts performance and defect warranties merely because aftermarket parts have been installed on the vehicle. The only circumstance under which the vehicle manufacturer can void the emissions warranties is if an aftermarket part is responsible for (causes) the warranty claim.
IF YOU ARE DENIED WARRANTY WORK, ACCESS THE LINK BELOW.
http://www.sema.org/content/?ID=2223...arranty+denied
ALOHA!
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The Magnuson-Moss Act is good and all, and I believe in it. However it's you against a dealer and they will initially fight you thinking you wont go any further with action. And most likley you will have to get an attorney to help you out of a repair. At times you may be better off paying the dealer... 
