Cobb vs Vishnu vs ???
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Cobb vs Vishnu vs ???
The title pretty much sums up my question. Dont know alot about the tuning world of Subaru. Im just doing a little homework for the future... All opinions are welcome!
I have a Cobb Stage 2 AP and i love it. No problems at all with it. Shipping was a little ridiculos but i ordered right as they were coming out. I would probably do Vishnu if i was Local it would be nice to have a Dyno tune and to Mod along any path as i see fit rather that the set path for Cobb. We'll see what happens with the access tuner.
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unless you plan on going to shiv's place for a map, i'd stick with cobb. this has been discussed a lot so a search will turn up a lot of information.
i realllllllllllly liked vishnu's exhaust, but i heard bad things about actually getting in contact with them. i have heard recently that things have gotten much better.
i realllllllllllly liked vishnu's exhaust, but i heard bad things about actually getting in contact with them. i have heard recently that things have gotten much better.
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If you guys get a good number of people, I can arrange for Shiv to fly down to HI and tune you guys. We have done it once before (with UNICHIPS, haha) and we can do it again.
If you guys trust me, and my personal opinion, I say Vishnu. Hands down. I have seen it all. I have tried it all. And the only person who I would ever let tune my car would be Shiv.
If you guys trust me, and my personal opinion, I say Vishnu. Hands down. I have seen it all. I have tried it all. And the only person who I would ever let tune my car would be Shiv.
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over a year for a map Cobb said they'd make. Even purchased a specific intake for the map Cobb preferred. Then Cobb decided they weren't going to make my map and I was out in the cold. I have a few Cobb stickers if anyone wants them. I haven't tried any of Vishnu's products, but they are pricey.
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If you guys get a good number of people, I can arrange for Shiv to fly down to HI and tune you guys. We have done it once before (with UNICHIPS, haha) and we can do it again.
If you guys trust me, and my personal opinion, I say Vishnu. Hands down. I have seen it all. I have tried it all. And the only person who I would ever let tune my car would be Shiv.
If you guys trust me, and my personal opinion, I say Vishnu. Hands down. I have seen it all. I have tried it all. And the only person who I would ever let tune my car would be Shiv.
hey that sounds great!!! but sorta the same thing carlo was trying to do. didnt have many interested peeps in it though.. i guess it would be good to "sampo" the tune. kinda like a once in a lifetime thing i guess if your gonna be stuck on this island forever.. but the price has to be reasonable too. but i understand not too cheap since he is going to be flying down here for us...
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Hmm, lets see....what exactly are you looking for? power or value? cobb = 25 HP $650? Vishnu = 40 HP $900, you do the math. Personally, I went with Vishnu - its a bit more tunable than Cobb, but you do need to know what youre doin. Xede - the only drawback I see is that their V3 software isnt out yet, V2 needs more accessibility. Oh, by the way their base map works fine as long as you keep your intake temps cool and run the correct octane fuel, or else the ECU will back off your timing big time. As for results, Ive managed several 12.7 sec runs @ 107+mph with a few tweaks. The best Ive seen from a Cobb equipped STi w/ TBE Ive seen here ran 13.0 @ 103+mph.
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I wouldn't
put too much value in the numbers tuners quote. Dyno X vs dyno Y and different mods, temps, hp vs whp, etc. Both Cobb, Vishnu, TurboXS, and many others are capable tuners. It would be nice to have an AWD dyno here to settle the "who's best" question. I would also judge 1/4 mile times with the same bias. Mods vs. driver vs. temps etc. And is your tune for the long haul or on the ragged edge? You can have a very fast car and suck at the drags (or just the opposite). I'm running 10:1 ~ 11:0 AFR at full boost. Nice and safe. Haven't even seen anyone else on island with a wideband O2.
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Do you still have to splice into the ECU lines for Xede or is there now a plug in harness for the STi?
I was very happy with Vishnu Stage 1 when I had the WRX wagon. I'm playing around with a Cobb AP, but may eventually go back to Vishnu for my STi.
I was very happy with Vishnu Stage 1 when I had the WRX wagon. I'm playing around with a Cobb AP, but may eventually go back to Vishnu for my STi.
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I have a pnp harness...but its kinda short though. So, is this more for drag or autocross...or both? I wouldnt recommend autocross using xede....unless you use a lower octane setting w/ higher octane gas, just dont let it knock cause its gonna slow your car down.
Right now I'm only doing AutoX though may do some track days in the future. I'm in no hurry for more power, but eventually want to add a TBE. When I get around to a TBE I want to have some type of engine management in place. I picked up a used AP for this reason, but I've always been a bigger fan of Shiv's tuning.
The availability of a PNP harness will probably shift me back in the Vishnu direction.
The availability of a PNP harness will probably shift me back in the Vishnu direction.
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