Advice: Element Tuning GT52 turbo upgrade
 

if I do plan to keep my car was looking at this setup:

it bolts directly onto the manifold, 380+dnyo'd hp numbers look good, stock internals? (very questionable 20psi @ 3600 rpm, World One claimed it would be safe).......

yes, I know what it entails..upgrading injectors, rails, fuel pump, FMIC, clutch, etc, etc

I guess, my question is what size turbo is it comparable to, spool/lag time, drivability, etc? This will not be daily, but still would like to keep drivability decent

Trying to time this for the next tuning....thanks in advance

Shooterz, Mike

I think it would be comparable to something like this turbocharger made by Slowboy Racing:

[url]http://importimageonline.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_34_46&products_id=521[/url]

well, the leggy did 480 on stock int... but he knows he's pushin it. With a good tune, you might be able to pull it off. just my 2 cents

found this:

(52 lb/min, 375-500whp, Bolt-On) This turbocharger is very similar to many other 7cm TD06 20G framed bolt-ons but that's where the comparison ends. In this particular turbocharger we use a Garret GT30R 52 lbs compressor wheel, Garrett turbine wheel and shaft. The compressor is a GT30R rated at 52 lbs utilizing an internal wastegate. Typically we see 20 psi by 3600-3800 rpm tuning with the Hydra with pump gas power in the 375-400 whp range. Both housings are completely ported for increased flow and wastegate performance. Race gas power is in the 475-500whp range. Expect to achieve full boost with the proper modifications and a quality tune between 3500-4000rpms. Fuel upgrades for this turbocharger and proper engine management are required. The Element GT52 has been recently updated to increase internal wastegate performance. Increased port work, larger wastegate port, and a larger wastegate valve has been utilized to ensure boost creep free performance.

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before choosing a turbo...I would talk to who will tune your car after the install...they may have some interesting things to say about what they have installed and tuned in the past...good and bad...

i was also looking at that turbo... but after i told worldone that i still needed to save up for the price quote they had given me, they ultimately stopped responding any of my emails. i must have been a waste of time :( sorry :rolleyes: to add to that, i was told the turbo is a bit hard to tame, maybe due to its inefficient internal wastegate. maybe it will be a great turbo when paired with an external wastegate. they do claim that the wastegate was updated, so i wonder if the turbo is better now...

[QUOTE=juniorsti;1993560]i was also looking at that turbo... but after i told worldone that i still needed to save up for the price quote they had given me, they ultimately stopped responding any of my emails. i must have been a waste of time :( sorry :rolleyes: to add to that, i was told the turbo is a bit hard to tame, maybe due to its inefficient internal wastegate. maybe it will be a great turbo when paired with an external wastegate. they do claim that the wastegate was updated, so i wonder if the turbo is better now...[/QUOTE]

I received a price quote from them, the turbo itself is a bit expensive and the other parts FMIC, injectors are a bit pricey w/o brand name or type from World One...if you guys are interested I can e-mail the quotes to you...also shipping: "TBD" is scary........also they tacked on the Walboro fuel pump when it's suppossed to be free.........

if interested PM me or post e-mail and I can give you their quotes...little to pricey as of now.......

if you want big power then why not get a TD06 20g with an 8cm instead of a 7cm? check and see how much cfm that thing flows as that is ultimately what is gonna tell you if it's worth the $$

oh btw you've probably seen this but if not it's a good place to start....[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1141476[/url]

[QUOTE=juniorsti;1993560]i was also looking at that turbo... but after i told worldone that i still needed to save up for the price quote they had given me, they ultimately stopped responding any of my emails. i must have been a waste of time :( sorry :rolleyes: to add to that, i was told the turbo is a bit hard to tame, maybe due to its inefficient internal wastegate. maybe it will be a great turbo when paired with an external wastegate. they do claim that the wastegate was updated, so i wonder if the turbo is better now...[/QUOTE]

Can't you just get it straight from Element tuning? I think Boost Junkie (from iwsti.com) will be putting on this turbo soon and having it tuned. He usually gives some pretty good reviews.

Few questions to ask yourself:

1- What is your goal ? (awhp,1/4 et.) etc.
2- What will you be doing the most auto X / Drag etc ?
3- You must start thinking of an EMS preferrebly a stand alone:)Hydra-Utec etc.


I have read good and neg. results on the GT52 Turbo. Thats why I went with a proven recipe. To be safe of future issues.

[B] I personally would recommend Ultimate Racing GT35r Turbo Kit.[/B] FTW!!!


Link to Dyno - Videos On my set-up:
[url]http://www.boricua-racing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=443[/url]

[COLOR="red"][B] Positive Results on my 2004 STI [COLOR="Magenta"]STOCK Internals[/COLOR][/B][/COLOR]
[B]428awhp on 93 Octane
520awhp w/C16 (VP)[/B]
[COLOR="Red"][B] Ran personal best 2 times with clutch issues: Car should run a 10.5 easy.[/B][/COLOR]
10.97 @129MPH 10.98 @ 127 11.0 @ 131mph


[COLOR="red"] At the end of the project...It's all about the Tuner[/COLOR]

Wish you best of Luck in your project. Keep us updated!!

Jose

[QUOTE=thunder_sti;1994194]Few questions to ask yourself:

1- What is your goal ? (awhp,1/4 et.) etc.
2- What will you be doing the most auto X / Drag etc ?
3- You must start thinking of an EMS preferrebly a stand alone:)Hydra-Utec etc.


1) roughly 380 awhp pump/roughly whatever I can pull out RG <also something that'll give me room for additional power later>
2) as of right now pure pleasure, future ??
3) yep, been starting to looking into a few engine managements

I'll do some research on the gt35...thanks for the tips...Mike

I like: "Positive Results on my 2004 STI STOCK Internals"

[QUOTE=Dirteeboy808;1994303][QUOTE=thunder_sti;1994194]Few questions to ask yourself:

1- What is your goal ? (awhp,1/4 et.) etc.
2- What will you be doing the most auto X / Drag etc ?
3- You must start thinking of an EMS preferrebly a stand alone:)Hydra-Utec etc.


1) roughly 380 awhp pump/roughly whatever I can pull out RG <also something that'll give me room for additional power later>
2) as of right now pure pleasure, future ??
3) yep, been starting to looking into a few engine managements

I'll do some research on the gt35...thanks for the tips...Mike

I like: "Positive Results on my 2004 STI STOCK Internals"[/QUOTE]


Good luck on your choice and enjoy the gt35r stories:)

[QUOTE=ReleaseDaKraken;1993733]Can't you just get it straight from Element tuning? I think Boost Junkie (from iwsti.com) will be putting on this turbo soon and having it tuned. He usually gives some pretty good reviews.[/QUOTE]

i guess...... i was told that worldone was a great shop so i thought id try em..... right now it looks like i might go with an FP TD06 20G. ill check out boost junkie, hes got the CGM wingless sti right??