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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 02:25 AM
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Tanabe G blue Turboback on 06 TR

i am some what new to the import tuning world and am looking to install a TANABE g blue turboback onto my TR, i had a few questions, first off it is said to be that the TBE is not for street use, my assumption is the only reason for this is it is running over the street legal 93 decibels is this correct? If so my guess is the dec. level will only exceed such range when it peaks out at around 6k RPM right? and the suppressor should prevent that. i also i was reading around to find out about performance modifications and warranty and stumbled across this piece of knowledge

"If you pop your engine with an aftermarket downpipe and an AP changing factory specs you WILL NOT be covered. YOU will pay the bill. Clear? If you blow out a strut with an aftermarket downpipe and AP you WILL be covered. THEY will pay the bill. Clear?".

Is this true aswell? i live out in the boonies and dont think the exhaust will cause a problem but i want to be sure. one last thing i did want to be sure on, www.tanabe-usa.com says this mod is compatible with up to 05 models, same for K&N RA intake and HKS ssqv bov but the two of them i know fit the 06 WRX TR as i now own them i was wondering if they had just not yet updated the list for compatibility.
I would really like to cut out the exhaust mod all at once rather then piece by piece and from what i hear this sounds like it will hit with the most HP. The only mods i intend to do as for sucking overrated HP from my car are intake and exhaust so i want to get the highest WHP i can from such while remaining street legal. Thanks for the help guys and thanks for a warm welcome to I-club!
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 06WRXTRacer
i am some what new to the import tuning world and am looking to install a TANABE g blue turboback onto my TR, i had a few questions, first off it is said to be that the TBE is not for street use, my assumption is the only reason for this is it is running over the street legal 93 decibels is this correct?

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If so my guess is the dec. level will only exceed such range when it peaks out at around 6k RPM right? and the suppressor should prevent that.

Not necessarily true, the highest db may be at a lower rpm/throttle position

"If you pop your engine with an aftermarket downpipe and an AP changing factory specs you WILL NOT be covered. YOU will pay the bill. Clear?

from what i've heard, it depends on where you take it. some dealers will honor the warranty and some will not. If your car needs to go to the dealer you can re-install the stock TBE and unmarry the AP.


If you blow out a strut with an aftermarket downpipe and AP you WILL be covered. THEY will pay the bill. Clear?".

from what i've heard this should not be a problem, but they might say that your car was damaged while doing something other than normal driving but like I said it shouldn't be a problem.

www.tanabe-usa.com says this mod is compatible with up to 05 models,


It should fit just fine. -
My invidia TBE thats on my '02 fits an '06 sti so you should be fine.

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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 08:35 AM
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Very good, well i guess that leads me to my next question....is it worth it in your opinion or am i looking at to much trouble?
Old Oct 4, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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I don't think it will be a problem. I looked to see if I could match the part numbers for the exhaust with the '02-'05 and the '06-'07 but couldn't find the part number anywhere. Call the place you plan on ordering from just to verify that it does indeed fit.
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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Well the reason most TBEs are "off-road" use only is due to the design of the piping and the removal of the factory catalytic converter. The Tanabe Concept G Blue is an almost straight through design and eliminates the factory cat. It will be loud but depending on your local laws, you will either be fine or will be picked on by the cops. This should fit your car with no problems.

As far as warranty is concerned, a dealer cannot void the whole warranty on the car. It all depends on what part breaks and if your mods caused the malfunction. If you toast your turbo and have a TBE, the dealer wont warrant that because the mod help cause it. However, if your car's strut broke well before it's time, the dealer should warrant it since your TBE did not cause it. If they are persistent about warranty, let them know about the Magnusson Law and write a letter to SOA about your problem.
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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Ok noob question, time for the suby buffs to shine. If/when i install the Tanabe exhaust would it be wise to buy a tuner and take it to a dealer or mod shop? If so what would be a good tuner to invest in, cobb? also what is the price of this (pro tuning) in most cases?
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 06WRXTRacer
Ok noob question, time for the suby buffs to shine. If/when i install the Tanabe exhaust would it be wise to buy a tuner and take it to a dealer or mod shop? If so what would be a good tuner to invest in, cobb? also what is the price of this (pro tuning) in most cases?
since the Concept G is a full catless design, you will probably experience boost creep, and the only real way to get rid of that is to port the wastegate. but an EM system would mask the problem.Pretty much everyone goes with either Accessport or ECUTek. I personally went with Cobb because it has a lot more features, and i got a killer deal on it. I am very pleased with not only the power gains, but also how much more smoother the powerband is. its a lot easier car to drive now.

As for the protune, they run anywhere from $100-$300 depending on the tuner. its not necessary to get a protune, but it would give you some extra ponies. Definately, some sort of EM is needed to reallly get the best bang for your buck.

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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 06:16 AM
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Wellis it mandatory to bore out the stock waist gate or can you find an aftermarket... in any case it is going to cost a grip to install such a part eh.
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Originally Posted by NorCalBugEye
since the Concept G is a full catless design, you will probably experience boost creep, and the only real way to get rid of that is to port the wastegate. but an EM system would mask the problem.Pretty much everyone goes with either Accessport or ECUTek. I personally went with Cobb because it has a lot more features, and i got a killer deal on it. I am very pleased with not only the power gains, but also how much more smoother the powerband is. its a lot easier car to drive now.
Having an EM alone without the porting or the pro tune will not solve boost creep. You need to tune the car or port wastegate. Porting the wastegate costs under $100 depending on the shop.
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Having an EM alone without the porting or the pro tune will not solve boost creep. You need to tune the car or port wastegate. Porting the wastegate costs under $100 depending on the shop.
thats what im saying, EM wont solve the problem, only somewhat mask it. Porting the wastegate or a tune is what you need.
Old Oct 8, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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that's for the port alone? i would guess removal would be required as an additional charge correct?
Old Oct 8, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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Initially after I installed my TBE I had no problems then a few weeks after install it started spiking. I cycled the wastegate by hand(just pulling the rod so it went fully open and let it shut) about 20-30 times and after that I have had no boost issues. It will waver at full boost +/- .5psi so nothing noticeable or to worry about.
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I am running a Helix TBE, STi Intercooler, K&N typhoon intake, and Cobb Stage 2. I have had this set up on my car for about 3 months and have not ever experienced boost creep.
I would recommend getting the Cobb AP or if you go with the ECUtek get it protuned.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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i have a helix catless dp, and carbon ti catback, and also intake, i think i shuld get a cobb AP but how does the cobb map really works?
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with my setup i think i felt boost creep*, but im not sure, when i floored my car on 3rd gear, i felt a jump in my car and went boom*(more like a pshhh) and rpm jumped a little. i think that is what they call it *boost creep* but im not sure. what does a boost creep does to the car? im not going to get a cobb ap any time soon, so what can i do to reduce the damage? <- other than drive slow* its really hard to drive slow when you know your car can go much faster =\
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