front mount intercooler: why didn't subaru do this for the sti
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front mount intercooler: why didn't subaru do this for the sti
now the wrc subarus have front mount intercoolers.
why didn't subaru do this for the american sti or wrx?
isn't it more advantageous to have a front mount intercooler?
jus' wonderin'?
-john
why didn't subaru do this for the american sti or wrx?
isn't it more advantageous to have a front mount intercooler?
jus' wonderin'?
-john
The only limitation with TMIC is that it kinds of limit the power level because of the greater need of cooling - but then you're probably talking about 350-400+ hp. FMIC has more lag for sure...
find someone with an fmic w/pics.. look at the plumbing. its rediculous. even with the manifold flipped its pretty crazy. all that extra plumbing = laaag. if you look at a pic of the wrc engine bay they flip the manifold and mount the ic much higher than the usual and relocate the intake.. I think this layout is more efficient but still not as simple as a tmic.
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The answer to almost any of those type of questions is $$$. Why would Subaru (or any other manufacturer) spend the extra money when what they already have (TMIC) is adequate for the stock vehicle?
In addition to the added cost of a FMIC, I'm sure their production line is setup to just drop in the motor assembly with the TMIC. Do a quick estimate on the amount of additional labor required to plumb in a FMIC in addition to additional crash testing to prove that the change is still structurally sound. etc..etc...
So what about production cars that have a FMIC like the Evo 8 and SRT-4. I'm willing to bet that the design of the front structure allows for efficient installation of the factory FMIC with a minimal amount of man-hours. Other factors such as the higher profile of an inline-4 (unlike our flat 4) would limit the locations to mount an IC. In other words they they either would have to go with a FMIC or a much smaller IC mounted in the fender (ala DSMs).
In addition to the added cost of a FMIC, I'm sure their production line is setup to just drop in the motor assembly with the TMIC. Do a quick estimate on the amount of additional labor required to plumb in a FMIC in addition to additional crash testing to prove that the change is still structurally sound. etc..etc...
So what about production cars that have a FMIC like the Evo 8 and SRT-4. I'm willing to bet that the design of the front structure allows for efficient installation of the factory FMIC with a minimal amount of man-hours. Other factors such as the higher profile of an inline-4 (unlike our flat 4) would limit the locations to mount an IC. In other words they they either would have to go with a FMIC or a much smaller IC mounted in the fender (ala DSMs).
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Originally posted by Daredevil
fmic's are illegal in CA, as well as other states i believe, just another reason why...
fmic's are illegal in CA, as well as other states i believe, just another reason why...
Originally posted by Mister 2
???What. They don't sell Evo 8s in Cali???
???What. They don't sell Evo 8s in Cali???
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the fmic is not illegal.
the problem with fmic is getting the car to pass a crash test, and u can mount a plate on a vette, evo or anything, so thats irrelavant, and the whole CA thing is irrelavant too.
ca=smog
everystate has bumper laws but if the car in unbsafe it wont be sold.
the problem with fmic is getting the car to pass a crash test, and u can mount a plate on a vette, evo or anything, so thats irrelavant, and the whole CA thing is irrelavant too.
ca=smog
everystate has bumper laws but if the car in unbsafe it wont be sold.


