Originally Posted by gruppe-s

Hi - It's cheaper to do an uppipe/downpipe, then get the Cobb AP later. Once you get the Cobb AP, you'll be able to run the stage 2 map instead of the stage 1 map. You shouldn't have any reliability issues on doing either mods 1st.

Let me know if you have more questions.

thanks,
Preston

Originally Posted by powerband

For the '06 WRX with an already catless (OEM) uppipe, is it necessary to replace it with an after-market uppipe in order to do the Cobb stage 2 map?

Originally Posted by cobbtuning.com

Q. What is needed for Stage 2?

A. We actually field a lot of calls with people wanting the Stage 2 AccessECU because the dyno graph looks a lot better, but they do not have a turbo-back exhaust. Here is a diagram of the exhaust to help you visualize:



The Stage 2 was tuned on a car with a full turbo-back system. If you have pieced together a less than optimal combo of parts or those that were not designed to work together you may not get the full benefits of the Stage 2 AccessECU. Boost may not come on as quickly and the peak power may be down from those that have a well designed full turbo-back system. If you have replaced the first section (second cat or downpipe section) and nothing else, then the Stage 2 map is what we would recommend. Again the results will be far less than optimal, but it will control the boost better than the Stage 1. If you have replaced sections 2-4 (third cat, mid-pipe, and muffler section then you are still Stage 1. You managed to get all except the part that makes the most difference. Again, we want to reiterate that Stage 2 will only get the intended results with a well designed complete turbo-back.