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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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Thanks for all of the input. sounds like they all do the same thing when it comes to power and the diamiter does not matter. I do think I will look into a uppipe with a flex joint.


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Originally posted by Silver arrow
The only reason they fail is high temps.
Actually we see a lot of them fail due to improper removal from the stock pipe or improper installation.

As for higher temps with the cat removed, try putting a aftermarket EGT gauge and probe into the stock location with a CAT and do some WOT runs, read the gauge then try the same on a car with no CAT. You may be a little surprised at the readings

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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by Scott@S-Squared
Its a flex unit, but the best feature of ours is that you will not recieve a check engine light unlike the rest. Our EGT probe is installed the exact depth as the OEM unit and will function properly without the need of a resistor inline as a CEL fix.
That's funny, because when I reinstalled my EGT sensor into a gutted stock uppipe ("the exact depth of the OEM unit") I went into limp mode about 6k miles later.

There is no point in having that bung there, the EGT sensor does nothing for a catless uppipe. It just jacks up the price of the pipe, and makes me have to search around for a M12x1.25 bolt to plug the hole with.
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The EGT shouldn't cause limp mode, just a CEL. What was the code after that happened?
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Originally posted by BAN SUVS
The EGT shouldn't cause limp mode, just a CEL. What was the code after that happened?
I think you'll find just a CEL if you don't connect the sensor like they are referring to in this thread, if the EGT sensor detects to hot levels it throws a completely different code and dumps the car into limp mode as it thinks the pre CAT is going to fail due to excessive heat.

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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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THe presence of the cat doesn't alter the EGTs. It makes them read lower when the engine is first turned on, then when the cat comes up to temp, it is the same temp as the EGTs coming from the engine. Removing it doesn't make the EGTs climb.
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Originally posted by BAN SUVS
THe presence of the cat doesn't alter the EGTs. It makes them read lower when the engine is first turned on, then when the cat comes up to temp, it is the same temp as the EGTs coming from the engine. Removing it doesn't make the EGTs climb.
That is not what I am refering to mate.

If the CAT starts to over heat thus causing the EGT's to go above a predetermined high EGT level the ECU throws a CEL and goes into limp mode as it thinks the CAT is/has over heated and is likely to dissintergrate thus causing damage.

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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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I agree with this. Also, the sti or stock uppipes have heat shielding to prevent the precious heat from dissipating

Originally posted by Silver arrow
The only reason they fail is high temps. Remove the cat and you lower the temp in the uppipe, and reduce the probabilty of the stock sensor failing. By the way the best uppipe is a stock gutted uppipe. Fits perfect and it has been proven to perform just as good as after market. If you don't want to get dirty gutting it, by the STi uppipe. No cat and perfect fit.
Originally posted by Silver arrow
The only reason they fail is high temps. Remove the cat and you lower the temp in the uppipe, and reduce the probabilty of the stock sensor failing. By the way the best uppipe is a stock gutted uppipe. Fits perfect and it has been proven to perform just as good as after market. If you don't want to get dirty gutting it, by the STi uppipe. No cat and perfect fit.
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a flex uppipe is the best uppipe, brand doesn't really matter.
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No the Perrin Uppipe will not throw a CEL as it comes with a resistor fix for the CEL's.

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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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i thought heat shields are for protecting other parts from the pipe itself? why would an uppipe need to keep heat in, it goes to the propeller side of the turbo right... thought heat differences would be negligible
Old Jan 3, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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Hotter gas

is faster gas. That's why you should wrap or coat (or both) aftermarket manifolds. Keeping underhood temps down helps if you have a TMIC.

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gut out your stock up-pipe !!!



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