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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by wrex04
With the stock setup is there any need for a turbo timer? I occassionally like to hammer the gas once in a while, but not all the time. I heard from the dealer it wasn't necessary. I just want to make sure I'm not going to be damaging my car if I don't always let it cool down for 10 mins before I get out of the car. Any help would be appreciated.
10 minutes i think is kinda long. but i wouldnt know. i hear peeps usually let it run for a minute or two? oh um, yeah, i heard something like that too but i guess its better to be safe then sorry.
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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there is absolutely no need for a turbo timer
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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Read this thread bro. Save your money and get an uppipe

https://www.i-club.com/forums/showth...ht=turbo+timer


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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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I bought a Blitz DTT DC turbotimer (its the best one I could find and it only costs alittle over $100) because it had a turbo gauge and it makes me feel better knowing my car idles at least 1 min after driveing. I dont feel as if I wasted my $ because I needed a turbo gauge and I really dont trust technology that has only been out for 1 year (as far as I know this is the first turbo vehicle subaru has made that doesnt recomend a cool down period). My car is a 02 and I am not positive that it is the first to have this technology.

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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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My car is a 02 and I am not positive that it is the first to have this technology.
AFAIK most all Subaru Turbos have water cooled jackets. The 02 turbo is new here in the US but has been overseas for years.

Some info here:

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...&threadid=2388

a quote from Mike Shields at one of the links in the page I have posted above:

The use of turbo timers to shut the engine off some preset time after the ignition key is removed was needed in the old days. Early turbocharger bearing housings were only cooled by the lubrication oil of a running engine passing by the turbine bearing. If the engine was shut of when the turbine was still very hot excessive heat wick into the turbo bearing and seal area, cooking the oil to black carbon, causing bearing/shaft failure and heavy oil consumption. The newer (for over 15 years now) style turbo housings are water cooled as well as oil cooled. The original EJ20 Subaru turbo motor took advantage of water cooled bearings from the start and have never had this problem due to a unique design feature we will now explain. It is the reason you do not need to purchase a turbo timer.
I think 15 years qualifies for old / proven technology.
Old Feb 12, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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You're always going to get folks who give you the "better to be safe than sorry" argument. Read the links and information provided within this thread and you'll have a better understanding of the facts. A turbo timer provides no value (as a timing device) in a modern, turbocharged Subaru.

Something else to think about........If you've been "running hard", you should cool your car down prior to parking it (just drive easy for a bit). This will give all of your vehicle's components a chance to return to their normal operating temperatures.

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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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turbo cool down procedure...

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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 05:01 AM
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Instead of spending 200$ on a turbo timer, you can spend the same on an alarm remote starter w/ a turbo timer built in. you get security, a remote starter(most places say they can't do it but it just needs a relay for the clutch), and a 5 minute turbo timer. Before you shut the car of press the brake for 5 seconds and take the key out and then it stays on for 5 minutes.
Old Feb 13, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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the only thing i use my turbo timer for is to warm up my car. often i would just in my car in the morning start up the car set the timer and get out. come back 2-3 later and my car is warmed up.

tubro timer = worst mod done to my car. (waste of money)
Old Feb 13, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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Waste of money, I agree with everyone else use the money to buy an uppipe or whatever.
Old Feb 13, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by awns729
turbo cool down procedure...

This seems a little flawed. If the car is not running the coolant is not as cool as if the car where running. In fact for a minute or two after hard driving if the car is shut off the coolant temp may rise. Also if the car is not running there is no oil flow through the turbo which lubes the bearings. Turbo timers may be a waste of money but if they will help the turbo last a little longer thats cool by me. I think that since the new cool down technique is still new and not proven then you may want to stick with the turbo timer. I got a Blitz fatt dc3 on this forum with a harness for less than $ 100.
Old Feb 13, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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This seems a little flawed. If the car is not running the coolant is not as cool as if the car where running.
Why does this seem flawed? Coolant is all around the bearing, convection currents an flash cooling will keep coolant moving past the hot surface bringing the heat away. Ever do the sci exp when you were a kid ? Hold a paper cup filled with water over a candle and you won't set the cup on fire. The water carries the heat away fast enough to prevent the paper from getting hot enough. Same thing here, except we are under pressure about 13 ish PSI so if you look at a steam table that boils water at around 240° (even though this is not all water you get the idea) the radiator cap would blow at if it were flashing so you have to assume the temp will be lower than that. Oil burns at a much higher temp that that.



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