Which Short Shifters are you guys running?
Etchy,
get the Kartboy, ... talk to Ed S. about the STi shifter, ... he put it in his RS, but I'm pretty sure he now wishes he hadn't wasted all that money on it, especially since it doesn't even have much of a reduction in throw.
... plus the fastest WRX in Hawaii uses one ....
get the Kartboy, ... talk to Ed S. about the STi shifter, ... he put it in his RS, but I'm pretty sure he now wishes he hadn't wasted all that money on it, especially since it doesn't even have much of a reduction in throw.
... plus the fastest WRX in Hawaii uses one ....
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The second link of the three I posted above is about the cobb adjustable shifter 
The STi shifter only gives you a lever, the linkage and bushing are basically the same.


Peaty

The STi shifter only gives you a lever, the linkage and bushing are basically the same.

Peaty
I have the sti one from the factory and I'm pretty happy with it, wish I could help more by comparing the two but I've never driven one with the KB. I am going to be upgrading my bushing to the KB though since I've heard so many good things about it.-James
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I've driven the KB and the STi and the STi w/ a KB shifter and KB bushings.
The STi alone gives you the nice short throw. The throw reduction comes from the tail part below the pivot point more than how low the shifter **** is. The KB and STi are similar in throw. The STi keeps the stock **** height. The shifting feel is a little mushy (same or similar to stock) due to the bushing. Put a bushing in the STi be it KB or Cobb or Cusco (all the same IMHO) and you increase the feel (AKA notchyness)
Putting in a KB shifter and bushings in an STi shifter (did this once) and it feels the same as putting them in a standard OEM setup. The KB makes the shift **** sit lower which will further reduce the throw a little due to the reduction in the arc of the throw but just a little more. Put a MOMO shifter **** on a KB and it will further reduce how high the **** sits because the **** is further down on the threads. The KB knuckle ball shift **** sits lower too but not as low as the MOMO I don't think. somewhere in between stock and the MOMO.
So it sort of comes down to personnel preference. It really depends on what you are looking for. If you want the stock height and a short throw, go w/ an STi or adjustable Cobb. If you want low **** height go w/ the KB or the Cobb. I think getting the bushings no matter what you have is a good idea. If you want the **** to be really low, put on a MOMO or KB **** on a KB or Cobb shifter. The lower you go in shifter **** height the more effort you will need to move the whole lever. It's not a lot and after a bit you don't even notice but it's there.
I can't speak for the other makes as I haven't installed or driven with them.
Peaty
The STi alone gives you the nice short throw. The throw reduction comes from the tail part below the pivot point more than how low the shifter **** is. The KB and STi are similar in throw. The STi keeps the stock **** height. The shifting feel is a little mushy (same or similar to stock) due to the bushing. Put a bushing in the STi be it KB or Cobb or Cusco (all the same IMHO) and you increase the feel (AKA notchyness)
Putting in a KB shifter and bushings in an STi shifter (did this once) and it feels the same as putting them in a standard OEM setup. The KB makes the shift **** sit lower which will further reduce the throw a little due to the reduction in the arc of the throw but just a little more. Put a MOMO shifter **** on a KB and it will further reduce how high the **** sits because the **** is further down on the threads. The KB knuckle ball shift **** sits lower too but not as low as the MOMO I don't think. somewhere in between stock and the MOMO.
So it sort of comes down to personnel preference. It really depends on what you are looking for. If you want the stock height and a short throw, go w/ an STi or adjustable Cobb. If you want low **** height go w/ the KB or the Cobb. I think getting the bushings no matter what you have is a good idea. If you want the **** to be really low, put on a MOMO or KB **** on a KB or Cobb shifter. The lower you go in shifter **** height the more effort you will need to move the whole lever. It's not a lot and after a bit you don't even notice but it's there.
I can't speak for the other makes as I haven't installed or driven with them.
Peaty
First I used the SRX shifter but got tried of the vibration noise. So I bought the Perrin unit and went back to the OEM shifter because of the rubber core. No Noise!
Now I'm happy!
Mitch
Now I'm happy!
Mitch
Last edited by redleader; Jan 5, 2003 at 05:30 PM.
i have the sti shifter from the dealer, i went this way because i previously had a civic and the short shifter had clearance issues and was damn hard to move. the sti is smooth easy to move and pretty short, not as short as my civics but shorter than stock, it may cost more but the fit is perfect, it is the smoothist short shifter i have felt yet, but i have not felt the kartboy.
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I installed in my 2000 2.5RS, a Cobb adjustable shifter and Cobb bushings. The fit and finish to this duo far exceeds the others. It flexabilty to adjust both throw and height is worth the price of admission. I must admit, I installed a Kartboy in a friend's car and it worked perfectly, however; I prefer the Cobb setup.
2000 2.5RS
Blue Ridge Pearl
PDM CAI
sti catback exhaust
Whiteline Front Strut Brace
Cusco Rear Strut Brace
Sti pitch mount
etc.
2000 2.5RS
Blue Ridge Pearl
PDM CAI
sti catback exhaust
Whiteline Front Strut Brace
Cusco Rear Strut Brace
Sti pitch mount
etc.


