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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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Cobb California Gas Map Road Dyno Comparison

Well I just went and flashed in the Stage 2 California Map that Cobb just released. Results were a bit disappointing but pretty much what I had expected, as far as numbers go 7 peak HP less, as you can see they are pretty much the same until around 5000 RPM then the Stage 2 HWG map outperforms the California map. Something to note, I had about the equivalent of 93 octane when the California map was run(straight 76 91 Octane for the other), I dont see how that could do anything but inflate how well the CA map performs, so it will be interesting to see how well the CA map performs on regular CA gas.

The following is Road Dyno graph, it's pretty consistent, the runs were taken from the same starting point, roughly the same weather conditions. The numbers aren't worth anything compared to another car on a dyno, but they are very much comparable between different runs with the same car. Absolute numbers are meaningless, you should only focus on the change from previous runs. This is on very heavy smoothing, on an auto tranny the dyno must be done in 2nd gear, but 3rd would be more desirable, the results are still very consistent, albeit a bit rough.

RED is Stage 2 HWG Map
BLUE is Stage 2 CA Map

Old Aug 19, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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bleh. hey, how hard is it to road dyno a car? I'd be interested to see how my car does on the road dyno.
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 09:34 PM
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bleh. hey, how hard is it to road dyno a car? I'd be interested to see how my car does on the road dyno.
Find a flat road, put it in 2nd and mash the gas. As long as you have a laptop and delta dash, which I'm sure Scott can help you with.
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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Just got a chance to compare logs from before/after.

Other things of note:
Signs of detonation are gone from my Delta Dash logs, no more abrupt dips in timing, so that right there makes the map worth it for me.

Delta Dash reported IDC same gear same RPM before/after 92% vs. 97.5% so definitely running richer.

Ignition Timing is pretty much the same a bit more timing on the CA map, and the CA map the advance multiplier is at 15 opposed to 16 before.

Boost is the same as the HWG map, surprisingly Waste Gate Duty Cycle is higher with the CA map
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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coo stuff guys. maps look promisin
Old Aug 23, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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Slack - What year is your WRX? I assume you have an '04?

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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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Slack - What year is your WRX? I assume you have an '04?

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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 11:55 PM
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its about damn time they make a real cali map! Sounds promissing that its richer as cobb's stuff seemed to be on the lean side especially the problematic cars.

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slack, how do you get DD to store the custom gear ratio's for the automatic?
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slack, how do you get DD to store the custom gear ratio's for the automatic?
You can't, what I do is just open up a previous road dyno file, and it will have the ratios there.
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sorry for the newb question but wat is the stage2 california map for? fuel economy?
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ahh, excellent. now do you get the car rolling in 1 and shift to 2 right before you jump on it? or start in 2?
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nm. figured it out. hit 188 whp and 198 lb*ft in second.
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