Another option, not oft talked about
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Another option, not oft talked about
Or at least, I haven't seen too many folks discussing it.
http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/pro...CatalogueID=60
http://www.teamnabr.com/ubbpub/ultim...c;f=9;t=000029
Wow. $5000. I'd better start saving...I mean calling my cc co. and asking for another increase.
The thought has never crossed my mind that if/when I start swapping in another motor, it wouldn't be something that just drops in. It never crossed my mind that even the great STI technology on the EJ could be superceded...but I'm dense like that.
My first question is, why do we rarely hear about block damage. It seems as if it's always #3 or #4.
It would seem that strengthening the block is a very common sense thing to do in the search of greater displacement and the ability to throw a huge snail on, ie. hp #'s we all know would split the open deck 2.0 or 2.5. I know it's common sense, but it would seem like a supply>demand sort've thing. I'm not too well read about much of anything, especially non-Subaru, but I know the 4G63 is pretty revered for strength, therefore I doubt that there are many options for strengthening it up. I have no idea, but I wonder if Mr. Buschur has strengthened his block.
Also, how many common sense folk, like yourselves, would be suspicious of this fairly new 'anti-detonation' technology? It's probably revolutionary, but it seems like innovations like that don't remain a secret for very long. At least explain to me, so that I can understand, general terms as to what they have done to achieve this? Did they move the mic? j/k
originally posted by MARCO of Magnus Motorsports on teamnabr.com
Currently, we are trying to figure out some better tooling to cut the blocks faster to accept the sleeves. As most of you don't know, we cut the entire factory sleeve out, and then go right out past the water jacket on a 2.0L still some meat left on a 2.5L, nothing relevent.
(Right now it takes as long as 20 hours to bore each block, never mind making the sleeves.)
Then the sleeves are pressed in and pinned so they will survive heavy radial loading. The sleeves and Pins sit proud so the blocks are then decked lightly usually about .002" - .005"
The good thing about the sleeve is it allows you to bore as far as you want up to 101mm, I wouldn't recomend further. A normal subaru sleeve is around 1.5mm thick, Our sleeves are 115mm thick with a 100mm bore that would leave 7.5mm of cast iron in the cylinder wall. But it means you can have a 2.0L that is way stronger than a regular 2.0L and if you want in the future you can upgrade to whatever bore size you would like.
Currently, we are trying to figure out some better tooling to cut the blocks faster to accept the sleeves. As most of you don't know, we cut the entire factory sleeve out, and then go right out past the water jacket on a 2.0L still some meat left on a 2.5L, nothing relevent.
(Right now it takes as long as 20 hours to bore each block, never mind making the sleeves.)
Then the sleeves are pressed in and pinned so they will survive heavy radial loading. The sleeves and Pins sit proud so the blocks are then decked lightly usually about .002" - .005"
The good thing about the sleeve is it allows you to bore as far as you want up to 101mm, I wouldn't recomend further. A normal subaru sleeve is around 1.5mm thick, Our sleeves are 115mm thick with a 100mm bore that would leave 7.5mm of cast iron in the cylinder wall. But it means you can have a 2.0L that is way stronger than a regular 2.0L and if you want in the future you can upgrade to whatever bore size you would like.
The same 'Anti - Detonation technology' will strengthen the questionable reliability of the subaru boxer rod bearings. Rod bearings will be happier, it was made quieter, which will keep the knock sensor at bay. The whole rotating assembly was made lighter without sacrificing strength. Another Magnus first
http://www.teamnabr.com/ubbpub/ultim...c;f=9;t=000029
Wow. $5000. I'd better start saving...I mean calling my cc co. and asking for another increase.
The thought has never crossed my mind that if/when I start swapping in another motor, it wouldn't be something that just drops in. It never crossed my mind that even the great STI technology on the EJ could be superceded...but I'm dense like that.
My first question is, why do we rarely hear about block damage. It seems as if it's always #3 or #4.
It would seem that strengthening the block is a very common sense thing to do in the search of greater displacement and the ability to throw a huge snail on, ie. hp #'s we all know would split the open deck 2.0 or 2.5. I know it's common sense, but it would seem like a supply>demand sort've thing. I'm not too well read about much of anything, especially non-Subaru, but I know the 4G63 is pretty revered for strength, therefore I doubt that there are many options for strengthening it up. I have no idea, but I wonder if Mr. Buschur has strengthened his block.
Also, how many common sense folk, like yourselves, would be suspicious of this fairly new 'anti-detonation' technology? It's probably revolutionary, but it seems like innovations like that don't remain a secret for very long. At least explain to me, so that I can understand, general terms as to what they have done to achieve this? Did they move the mic? j/k
I'd like to know more about their '"anti-det" technology. It's very appealing, but I'd like more info.
"The whole rotating assembly was made lighter without sacrificing strength."
Did they develope their own crank, rods, and pistons? I wonder if they used stock brearings or if they made their own?
"The whole rotating assembly was made lighter without sacrificing strength."
Did they develope their own crank, rods, and pistons? I wonder if they used stock brearings or if they made their own?
Re: Another option, not oft talked about
Originally posted by gpatmac
My first question is, why do we rarely hear about block damage. It seems as if it's always #3 or #4.
My first question is, why do we rarely hear about block damage. It seems as if it's always #3 or #4.
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