short throw shifters
GFB just came out with a short shifter claiming its throws are way shorter then its competitors. I believe auwrx is selling it for about $160 or so. What you guys think about it?
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This may seems like a dumb question, but-
When we say "short shifter", are we talking about the physical height of the shifter ****, or the amount you have to push to get it into gear? Or both?
The Cobb's is adjustable height? But the throw is shorter? I don't get it; but I think this will be my first mod, I think the stock wrx's feels crappy (as do the breaks...)
When we say "short shifter", are we talking about the physical height of the shifter ****, or the amount you have to push to get it into gear? Or both?
The Cobb's is adjustable height? But the throw is shorter? I don't get it; but I think this will be my first mod, I think the stock wrx's feels crappy (as do the breaks...)
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I haven't heard too many positive things about those "adjustable" ones. And besides, I don't really see the point of..."wow, look, I can make my shifter taller!". About the meaning of short shifter, it does both jamester...except all the shifters are different cuz they differ in these two aspects, throw and height. I know some people that have got the Sti short shifter kit and they agree that the kartboy sits even lower. On the other hand, it seems that the Sti one allows it to get into gear easier...also, it's a lil more expensive and more difficult to install cuz u gotta drop the whole linkage.
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Usually whats meant by a short throw shifter is not the physical height of the shifter & **** but the stiffness and shorter throw of the shifter when shifting. I have the OEM short throw and it is worlds difference then my friends stock but it is pricy. Thats why I told the dealer to throw it in for free
the shifter is a lever, a type 2 lever:
making the distance from fulcrum to load larger will decrease throw, and increase effort. naturally, making it smaller will do the opposite. the cobb and perrin both offer this adjustability.
making the distance from fulcrum to effort larger will increase throw, and decrease effort, and vice versa. only the cobb, afaik, has this adjustment.
accordingly, the cheapest short shifter is to just hacksaw off some threads, and make your **** sit lower.
the kartboy is slightly shorter than oem, and other than the STi kit, i suspect most short shifters are as well.
as far as height adjustability, this is a matter of preference. personally i want the shift **** to fall into my hand quickly, and i dislike having a large distance from steering wheel to ****. keeping the spacing tight makes for faster shifts, and getting both my hands back on the wheel faster. thus, a stock height is desirable. to accomplish this, either the perrin, the cobb, or sti will do the trick.
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making the distance from fulcrum to load larger will decrease throw, and increase effort. naturally, making it smaller will do the opposite. the cobb and perrin both offer this adjustability.
making the distance from fulcrum to effort larger will increase throw, and decrease effort, and vice versa. only the cobb, afaik, has this adjustment.
accordingly, the cheapest short shifter is to just hacksaw off some threads, and make your **** sit lower.
the kartboy is slightly shorter than oem, and other than the STi kit, i suspect most short shifters are as well.as far as height adjustability, this is a matter of preference. personally i want the shift **** to fall into my hand quickly, and i dislike having a large distance from steering wheel to ****. keeping the spacing tight makes for faster shifts, and getting both my hands back on the wheel faster. thus, a stock height is desirable. to accomplish this, either the perrin, the cobb, or sti will do the trick.
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ken
Originally posted by jamester
A little shorter throw is cool, but also want it to feel tighter, more positive, less vibration...
A little shorter throw is cool, but also want it to feel tighter, more positive, less vibration...
just watch out with aftermarket short shifters. i've read that people sometimes do feel more vibration from short shifters possibly do the missing rubber damper that the stock one has or that could just be a personal feeling expressed. that is one of they few reasons why i went with perrin.
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nope, completely different linkage...
Originally posted by sk8artafact
Is the stock short throw that dealers put in the wrx the same one as the sti's?
Is the stock short throw that dealers put in the wrx the same one as the sti's?
i took a look at the perrin short throw adapter, i dont quite understand it. is the thing height and throw adjustable or just adjustable throw? it seems nice. i have a friend that did the neuspeed adapter in his accord and it didnt do a thing no matter what he put the adjustment to. i was actually thinking on doing the perrin so maybe some of you guys can help me decide. thanks.
the perrin is only throw adjustable. it is controlled by the height you place the adapter along the stock shifter. since you are using the stock shifter the height is pretty much the same. so if you have short arms like me you don't have to reach far down like other shifters.
only the cobb is dual adjustable for both throw and height that i know of.
only the cobb is dual adjustable for both throw and height that i know of.
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