sooo...two years...wow, you must really be experienced.

 

Well the goal isn't to drift around a corner in the dirt. Its to set the car up straight so you can accelerate through the turn and make it as straight as possible.

www.cp-racing.com

 

Just for grins, go to malibu grand prix and compare. I thought if I went as fast as I could and slide the car through the turns, I'd be faster. I was wrong.

You will be noticeably faster if you minimize tire squeel.

 

So all it takes is two years of experience to be an expert driver? Damm. That means I must be a master by now. I've been drifting in the field behind my parents house for 18 years now. By your estimates, I should be god.

Racing on the street is just plain stupid.

 

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Check out the above link!
You should go punch the head of JUN Auto Mechanic for building a WRX D1 Car

 

Its a cool car no doubt. But I bet its faster around the track if you drive grip style versus drift style

 

I believe it all comes down to the situation your in which would determine the need to drift or grip. Generally speaking AWD is way faster with grip style, however there may be instances where you need to drift.

Ahhh but in Initial D grip could not out-perform drift BTW anyone see the movie, non-annimated

 

Ah, yes, using a movie about drifting is definitive proof of drift superiority.

 

In any motorsport, you are drifting the vehicle through turns. You're always going to have some tire slip when cornering. Managing that slip is the hard part. The most efficient way around a corner is the shortest for the speed the vehicle is traveling. Braking, steering, and throttle all come into play. You want to brake in the shortest distance possible to make the corner while carrying enough speed through. Then you want to apply throttle as early as possible to exit to corner with the most speed. If you watch any road race car or motorcycle go through a corner you'll see it slide a little. On gravel it's a little different in the method, but it's the same principle-carrying as much speed around the corner as possible any way you can.

 

I have the movie (initial d live action, no subtitles) I thought the drifting would be better since I'm so used to seeing the pros drifting (d1 and formula D) just expected more. But with the drift vs grip debate i thought (probably stupid know nothing) that some corners would be faster to drift and some better to grip. I haven't really drifted much so not sure but just what I thought.

 

well that settled it for me!:rotfl:

 

hmm... with AWD, its my belief that most of the time its faster to grip... Even when you're "grip" driving, if you're doing a good job of it, the rear end will come into play by itself. Not really drifting, but if you're pushing the car to 100%, the car will probably be rotating at least a little bit. (Front slip angle = rear slip angle)

However, on certain really twisty roa..-- race tracks around here, with a tight left into an almost hairpin right, I would normally get understeer, but if I flick the car around first to provoke the rear end into coming around, I'll go around the corner with considerably less understeer than if i just lined up in a grip style and went through the turn normally. Doing this also rewards me with more exit speed, which is important with a 1.8L 3000lb car

Whenever you drive a car enough, you should notice its tendencies and drive appropriately to change attitude of the car, to maximise its strong points and compensate for certain undesirable handling traits... like understeer

So basically you're always better off grip driving, then when you screw up and go into a drift you'll hopefully have some room to play. If you're drifting you're probably already way past that limit, especially if you're not an expert race car driver/ drifter / whatever.

 

yeah that.

 

he makes a point