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Old May 24, 2006 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by drumr78
To the original poster: They were talking about how the engines are reving so high that the air being sucked into the intake manifold is reaching the speed of sound and creating a sonic boom which is causing the engines to explode. They are trying to figure out a way to have the engines still rev that high with out causing the sonic boom associated with the intake air reaching mach 1.

13 days later........finally got my answer!!!!

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Old May 24, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by psoper
That 257 was on a runway in the desert, I don't think circuit speeds ever get much above 230.

maybe you can prove me mistaken?
Here is my original post:

Peak track speeds for F1 racing are often between 230-260mph.


So as you can see, we are actually in complete agreement. I knew about the record run as well as the normal speed of F1 racing. Thus, you still get kicked down to Nitpicker status :-) But, we are both right!
Old May 25, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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FWIW (which is exactly 1 ounce of flatus) I prefer watching F1 to WRC. I watch every single practice, qualifying and race session at least once (usually twice).

Can't wait for Monaco practice (which should be waiting on my tivo for me to get home)!
Old May 25, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by platypus
FWIW (which is exactly 1 ounce of flatus) I prefer watching F1 to WRC. I watch every single practice, qualifying and race session at least once (usually twice).

Can't wait for Monaco practice (which should be waiting on my tivo for me to get home)!
I like F1 as well, but I am really getting into Champ cars. With the Cosworth engines and a bit more "human" speeds, the Champ cars are really nifty driver's cars annd they run all over the world. I'd love to watch WRC, but Speed dropped it.
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Originally Posted by drumr78
To the original poster: They were talking about how the engines are reving so high that the air being sucked into the intake manifold is reaching the speed of sound and creating a sonic boom which is causing the engines to explode. They are trying to figure out a way to have the engines still rev that high with out causing the sonic boom associated with the intake air reaching mach 1.
Whoa, that is nuts!
Old May 25, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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The engine rules go in cycles though, last year's motors weren't as powerful as the motors in the late 80s and early 90s (Prost v. Senna), they were pushing nearly 1000hp, with turbos and active suspension. Every once in awhile they simply have to shake things up to keep it competitive. I was bummed when I heard they were going to 8 cylinders, but after I found out they were revving around 20k I was no longer disappointed.
Old May 25, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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Pulled this from the website.
Good stuff on the site, i suggest clicking the links on the left, great info.


Thought this was worth mentioning; "Revving to over 19,000 RPM a modern Formula One engine will consume a phenomenal 650 litres of air every second, with race fuel consumption typically around the 75 l/100 km (4 mpg) mark."

So no more complaining about 200 miles pre tank.



Teh link:
http://www.formula1.com/insight/tech...fo/11/467.html
Old Jun 2, 2006 | 12:15 AM
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It seems like everytime the FIA tries to limit the cars the engineers figure something new out to make the cars faster. They took away abs and now they have engine braking. They took away the V10, so they made the V8 rev higher. For every limitation the FIA makes there will always be a new idea to override it...thats what makes F1 so amazing!
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Originally Posted by mbquarts
It seems like everytime the FIA tries to limit the cars the engineers figure something new out to make the cars faster. They took away abs and now they have engine braking. They took away the V10, so they made the V8 rev higher. For every limitation the FIA makes there will always be a new idea to override it...thats what makes F1 so amazing!
I think it's what the FIA wants. If they kept the rules the same things would get completely insane after a few years, and the cars would be so fast that it would be dangerous.
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oh come now, you really think the FIA has any idea what they really want?
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I completely understand why they limit the performance of the cars...but I wish they had some kind of an open, unrestricted class or demo where they can use active suspension, turbos, full slicks, etc...
Old Jun 2, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
I completely understand why they limit the performance of the cars...but I wish they had some kind of an open, unrestricted class or demo where they can use active suspension, turbos, full slicks, etc...
I'd pay to see that.
But do you think the drivers could handle the G-forces? Now they hit like 3.5g's in corners, then plus everything you said would just be hell. Or one-hell-of-a-of-a-ride!!!
Old Jun 2, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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They're going to full slicks next year, or so I heard, also down to one tire manufacturer. What happened with the tires this year? I noticed they were changing them at Monaco (nearly) every pit stop, did the one set of tires rule go away?
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 02:12 AM
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2 years ago those V10s were easily exceeding 20k rpm. They only had to last two hours max. There was the qualifying transmission, engine, steering rods etc. Whatever the rules allowed. Just last year BAR Honda was making 1000hp. And if the FIA hadn't made a rule about an engine lasting 2 race weekends or you start at the back of the grid they(engines) would be making more hp with higher revs. Now we have 2.4 liter V8's instead of 3.0 liter V10's. In less than two more seasons they will be where the V10's were in hp, but not in torque. But the transmissions will be better etc. And the beat goes on.
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Originally Posted by monsterboy
2 years ago those V10s were easily exceeding 20k rpm. They only had to last two hours max. There was the qualifying transmission, engine, steering rods etc. Whatever the rules allowed. Just last year BAR Honda was making 1000hp. And if the FIA hadn't made a rule about an engine lasting 2 race weekends or you start at the back of the grid they(engines) would be making more hp with higher revs. Now we have 2.4 liter V8's instead of 3.0 liter V10's. In less than two more seasons they will be where the V10's were in hp, but not in torque. But the transmissions will be better etc. And the beat goes on.
Sato was blowing motors left and right before the 2 race rule though.



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