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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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Red face 10 best cars this year: NO more Subaru

The winner are:
Acura TSX
Audi S4 Quattro
BMW 3-series/M3
Chevrolet Corvette
Ford Focus
Honda Accord <--- why???
Honda S2000
Infiniti G35
Mazda RX-8
Toyota Prius <--- WTF
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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10Best Nominees:
Acura RSX
Acura TL
Acura TSX
Audi S4 Quattro
Audi TT 3.2 Quattro
BMW Z4
BMW 3-series/M3
BMW 5-series
Cadillac CTS 3.6/CTS-V
Chevrolet Aveo*
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet Impala SS*
Chevrolet Malibu
Chevrolet Malibu Maxx*
Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS*
Chrysler Crossfire
Ford Focus
Honda Accord
Honda S2000
Hyundai XG350
Infiniti G35
Jaguar XJ8
Kia Amanti*
Lexus LS430
Mazda RX-8
Mazda 3
Mazda 6
Mercedes-Benz C230 Kompressor
Mercedes-Benz E-class wagon
Mini Cooper S with John Cooper Works package
Mitsubishi Galant
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart
Nissan Maxima
Nissan 350Z
Pontiac Bonneville GXP*
Pontiac Grand Prix
Pontiac GTO
Porsche Boxster
Saab 9-3 convertible
Saturn Ion quad coupe
Scion xA
Scion xB
Subaru Impreza WRX
Suzuki Forenza*
Suzuki Verona
Toyota Camry Solara
Toyota Prius
Volkswagen New Beetle convertible
Volkswagen Passat W-8 4MOTION
Volkswagen Phaeton
Volvo S60R
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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There's nothing wrong with the Honda Accord.

Its the Ford Focus I wonder about being on that list.
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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Thought the WRX won the most fun to drive!! So what car won this year?? And what did the focus win? in my book that car sucks all around my brother has one doesnt even get good gas mileage.
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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all subarus > focus
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 09:54 PM
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half of those cars are over 30k

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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 02:55 AM
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HUH? Prius??? I've only seen one of those on the road ever. And the focus??? Who came up with this list anyway?
Old Dec 5, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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Well, in SoCal, there are Prius-es every where. I'd say that i see at least 3 a week. And i mean the new one, not the outgoing model.
gilmore25 - The winner are:
Acura TSX
Audi S4 Quattro
BMW 3-series/M3
Chevrolet Corvette
Ford Focus
Honda Accord
Honda S2000
Infiniti G35
Mazda RX-8
Toyota Prius
Old Dec 7, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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just appreciate transportation and comfort. poeple b spoiled up the a s s these days
Old Dec 7, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by whitelegacy98
all subarus > focus
Heh! Clearly, you don't watch WRC... Focus-based rally cars have driven WRXs into the ground many times the last three years.

The surprising cars on that list are actually the Infiniti G35 (not special enough to win 2 years in a row -- they develop lots of problems, fast), the Honda S2000 and that Corvette -- how could they give a "PC" award to the fuel-sipping Prius and then also applaud that 18-MPG gas-guzzling fiberglass monster?

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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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I've driven the G35, and while it is a NICE ride in terms of the interior and overall power, it has Nissan build quality -- the one I drove was less than 8 months old and it had rattles, a broken rear door handle and was on its second CD player. It also does not handle well at all for a car with Skyline roots; not "boatlike" but definitely not as crisp or responsive as my WRX. Lots of body roll and sway, and a long turning radius.

Look at that list overall -- only 14 American cars! (I am being generous; with all of the auto industry mergers, a lot of those cars are only 1/3 American). Where is the Dodge Neon SRT? They drove TWO SUZUKIS?? No Mercedes, Volkswagen or Porches in the top ten? TWO Hondas, but not a single Volk? And they didn't drive the STI, even though it is priced well below some of the cars in their top ten...

... I'll have to go with the monkey on this one.
Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:16 PM
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the focus' that are on the road in the u.s. are nothing like the ones you find rallying.. well maybe the ford logo.

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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by Christian
the focus' that are on the road in the u.s. are nothing like the ones you find rallying.. well maybe the ford logo.

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WRC Class Cars Regulations

Time to read up! While it is true that the Focus cars are clearly heavily modified from stock, the Focus cars still rely on a lot of Ford off-the-shelf technology, and the original Focus frame, body shape, a stock transmission and many similar parts. Furthermore, Ford was able to field a race-winning rally car in a shocking 11 months from drawing board to dirt, which is extremely impressive. If Colin "McCrash" McCrae hadn't somehow lost his edge and gotten fired, there would be Focus cars in the 1 and 2 slots for WRC right now.

My heart is with the Subaru/Prodrive team, but you have to give Ford credit for building a fantastic little rally car -- and a lot of that technology is going to find its way back to the street, eventually.

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