you should get hdtv
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you should get hdtv
really you should.
i'm watching the lakers v. pistons and everytime they show phil jackson i can count the freckles on the cleavage of some chick behind the bench. best $1000 i ever spent
i'm watching the lakers v. pistons and everytime they show phil jackson i can count the freckles on the cleavage of some chick behind the bench. best $1000 i ever spent
the first time for me was like 4 years ago...
first image i saw was ABC's "shaving private ryan." while it only lasted a few minutes (i used a 20 year old antenna that barely worked), i was hooked.
first image i saw was ABC's "shaving private ryan." while it only lasted a few minutes (i used a 20 year old antenna that barely worked), i was hooked.
since the games was on ABC, primary and free way of getting it is via OTA (over ther air, with the good ol' roof top antenna).
get this, i'm using a cheap indoor rabbits (for VHF, since channel 11/3 on cable is on technically, 11-1). for UHF needs, there is a roound loop with a pie plate that gets the rest of OTA channels which as HD content, CH 5, 9, 20, and sometimes 44. lately, CH 4 was airing some old HDNET programming.
with comcast, you can rent their HD box for $5 a month which will give you 11, 5 7 and 9 HD content. as a bonus, since comcast canNOT seem to encrypt their premium HD channels, i am getting, and get this, ESPN, HBO, SHO, CINEMAX and STARZ HD channels for ... ahem... FREE... lol... get it while you can. soon they will encrypt the channels and bye-bye freebies... and no, i did not do anything ILLEGAL...
for satellite owners, you have tons of options.
a new HD satellite company, VOOM has 21 exclusive HD channels, plus the usuals.
no local channels, but they install a roof top antenna as part of the package.
there is a yahoo group for san fran bay area HD people that is full of info:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HDTV-in-SFbay/
soon, anytime now, comcast has been touting FOX SPORTS CHANNEL will be HD soon, so giants and A's.
and this fall, FOX will begin their HD broadcast, so more NFL and the rest of their lineup.
get this, i'm using a cheap indoor rabbits (for VHF, since channel 11/3 on cable is on technically, 11-1). for UHF needs, there is a roound loop with a pie plate that gets the rest of OTA channels which as HD content, CH 5, 9, 20, and sometimes 44. lately, CH 4 was airing some old HDNET programming.
with comcast, you can rent their HD box for $5 a month which will give you 11, 5 7 and 9 HD content. as a bonus, since comcast canNOT seem to encrypt their premium HD channels, i am getting, and get this, ESPN, HBO, SHO, CINEMAX and STARZ HD channels for ... ahem... FREE... lol... get it while you can. soon they will encrypt the channels and bye-bye freebies... and no, i did not do anything ILLEGAL...
for satellite owners, you have tons of options.
a new HD satellite company, VOOM has 21 exclusive HD channels, plus the usuals.
no local channels, but they install a roof top antenna as part of the package.
there is a yahoo group for san fran bay area HD people that is full of info:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HDTV-in-SFbay/
soon, anytime now, comcast has been touting FOX SPORTS CHANNEL will be HD soon, so giants and A's.
and this fall, FOX will begin their HD broadcast, so more NFL and the rest of their lineup.
What the hell?? UHF HF 11/3 VHF OTA what the FUCCK is all that?
Originally Posted by ldivinag
since the games was on ABC, primary and free way of getting it is via OTA (over ther air, with the good ol' roof top antenna).
get this, i'm using a cheap indoor rabbits (for VHF, since channel 11/3 on cable is on technically, 11-1). for UHF needs, there is a roound loop with a pie plate that gets the rest of OTA channels which as HD content, CH 5, 9, 20, and sometimes 44. lately, CH 4 was airing some old HDNET programming.
get this, i'm using a cheap indoor rabbits (for VHF, since channel 11/3 on cable is on technically, 11-1). for UHF needs, there is a roound loop with a pie plate that gets the rest of OTA channels which as HD content, CH 5, 9, 20, and sometimes 44. lately, CH 4 was airing some old HDNET programming.
KNTV operating out of san jose, is on NTSC as channel 11 (analog). on cable they are channel 3.
HDTV transmit on the UHF frequencies. on analog speak, that is channel 14 and above. but with the exception of KNTV, which broadcasts just on the edge of VHF.
the following bay area stations are:
call letters - analog channel -- digital channel
ktvu - 2 -- 56.1
kron - 4 -- 57.1
kpix - 5 -- 29.1
kgo - 7 -- 24.1
kntv - 11 - 11.1 (also on 49.4 for my tv since they normally broadcast from the south but since piggybacked onto TELEMUNDO's transmitter on MT SUTRO)
kbwb - 20 -- 19.1
kbhk - 44 -- 45.1
there are a few more channels but since they dont broadcast any HD content, i dont pay attention much to them.
for example, the PBS station KCSM has stopped broadcasting analog PERIOD. so they are pure digital now. they are on 49.1
now to further add confusion, there is a thing called PSIP, which can remap digital station numbers to their analog old numbers. so for example, ktvu, remaps to 2.1, kron is 4.1 and etc.
confused yet?
HDTV transmit on the UHF frequencies. on analog speak, that is channel 14 and above. but with the exception of KNTV, which broadcasts just on the edge of VHF.
the following bay area stations are:
call letters - analog channel -- digital channel
ktvu - 2 -- 56.1
kron - 4 -- 57.1
kpix - 5 -- 29.1
kgo - 7 -- 24.1
kntv - 11 - 11.1 (also on 49.4 for my tv since they normally broadcast from the south but since piggybacked onto TELEMUNDO's transmitter on MT SUTRO)
kbwb - 20 -- 19.1
kbhk - 44 -- 45.1
there are a few more channels but since they dont broadcast any HD content, i dont pay attention much to them.
for example, the PBS station KCSM has stopped broadcasting analog PERIOD. so they are pure digital now. they are on 49.1
now to further add confusion, there is a thing called PSIP, which can remap digital station numbers to their analog old numbers. so for example, ktvu, remaps to 2.1, kron is 4.1 and etc.
confused yet?
one more thing, the ".1" means that stations have 19 Mb bandwidth to send out their digital data. but since analog data is way lower than that, some stations send out additional programming on them.
for example, channel 9, (oops forgot to add them to the list), broadcasts on 30.1. but the way they schedule their stuff, HD content only start after 8pm. prior to that, they have 3 sub channels on 30.2, 30.3 and 30.4.
they shoot out analog content on them. so it's like having up to 4 data streams per station.
but it does have it downsides.
since a full HD signal is like 12-16Mb, if you are sending out subchannels, that takes away from somewhere. so digital artifacts and or crap is introduced.
if you check out kbwb that only shoots out around 15Mb of their HD data, when you get fast motion, a lot of macroblocking occurs.
there are some cool subchannels. check out KGO's real time doppler radar on 24.3.
KQED uses it's subchannel to have a children's only programming.
KPIX doesnt use any so during football, they get ALL the bandwidth so their stuff looks like almost being there...
for example, channel 9, (oops forgot to add them to the list), broadcasts on 30.1. but the way they schedule their stuff, HD content only start after 8pm. prior to that, they have 3 sub channels on 30.2, 30.3 and 30.4.
they shoot out analog content on them. so it's like having up to 4 data streams per station.
but it does have it downsides.
since a full HD signal is like 12-16Mb, if you are sending out subchannels, that takes away from somewhere. so digital artifacts and or crap is introduced.
if you check out kbwb that only shoots out around 15Mb of their HD data, when you get fast motion, a lot of macroblocking occurs.
there are some cool subchannels. check out KGO's real time doppler radar on 24.3.
KQED uses it's subchannel to have a children's only programming.
KPIX doesnt use any so during football, they get ALL the bandwidth so their stuff looks like almost being there...
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yup, just watched it on abc7 digital. it's free...but I need a rooftop antenna and an hdtv receiver to make it work. an tv alone isn't enough 
damn...i wonder what her face looked like.
btw...go pistons. f$%k the lakers
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damn...i wonder what her face looked like.
btw...go pistons. f$%k the lakers
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HDTV is tite.. but there are drawbacks. my friend has a bomb @$$ Mitsubishi 65" diamondtron hdtv hooked up to comcast digital and i'm over there all the time watching sharks games in hd. as Idivinag mentioned, artifacts occur pretty often.. also, not sure if its a broadcast error or what.. but the signal drops WAY often on the sharks games. we'd end up switching back to the non-hd broadcast cause it was so bad. like it'd drop every 5-10 mins. although, when we watched the superbowl it never had any problems.
we suspect that 1 of the times we were watching the sharks games, it dropped cause they also had Golf in HD and 5.1 at the same time sucking the bandwidth. why golf needs 5.1 I dont know! but that doesnt explain why it happens other times.
we suspect that 1 of the times we were watching the sharks games, it dropped cause they also had Golf in HD and 5.1 at the same time sucking the bandwidth. why golf needs 5.1 I dont know! but that doesnt explain why it happens other times.


