Walk out on Iran's Speech @ Geneva?
04-22-2009, 10:55 PM
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I think they suffer more because of evolution based teaching today than they suffer from the effects of slavery 150 years ago.
Evolution based teaching says that we evolved from monkeys... and that some are closer to our "ancestors" than others... specifically that Austrialoids are the closest to apes (once called the missing link in evolution), followed by Negroids, then Mongoloids, and most supreme and evolved are the Caucasoids...
That's racist... that's taught in schools...
And this isn't taught in schools...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ota_Benga
I've heard people make more black jokes related to monkeys than I've heard made about blacks having been slaves...
News flash... we are all one race... If you don't believe the Bible on the matter, then here is what the Human Genome Project has to say...
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/human...does-not-exist
Evolution based teaching says that we evolved from monkeys... and that some are closer to our "ancestors" than others... specifically that Austrialoids are the closest to apes (once called the missing link in evolution), followed by Negroids, then Mongoloids, and most supreme and evolved are the Caucasoids...
That's racist... that's taught in schools...
And this isn't taught in schools...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ota_Benga
I've heard people make more black jokes related to monkeys than I've heard made about blacks having been slaves...
News flash... we are all one race... If you don't believe the Bible on the matter, then here is what the Human Genome Project has to say...
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/human...does-not-exist
04-22-2009, 11:00 PM
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Taking an International Relations class, though minimal, really opened my eyes to another system of thought. The USA implements a very negative foreign policy on many countries. Yes we do good things, but we also do some bad things.
04-23-2009, 12:02 AM
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You cannot equate evil and truth. I would have to say that most truths are up to interpretation. There will always be someone arguing against the obvious no matter how legitimate or not. Does that mean that nothing is truth? No. I don't think so.
Just to make it clear. I am not a supporter of that man. I was just trying to make the point that at first glance it may seem okay to say "Hell yeah! Go Team America!! Walk out on that Jew hating bastard!", but diplomacy is key and that is not a step towards diplomacy. He is an extremist, but that does not mean we shouldn't try to work thigs out verbally. I mean, he showed up to the meeting, so is he not trying to extend some form of "friendship"?
I'm not some hippy liberal. I believe there is a time and place for war, but Iran is not it at this time. We need to make actual steps towards diplomacy instead of screaming WMD.
Just to make it clear. I am not a supporter of that man. I was just trying to make the point that at first glance it may seem okay to say "Hell yeah! Go Team America!! Walk out on that Jew hating bastard!", but diplomacy is key and that is not a step towards diplomacy. He is an extremist, but that does not mean we shouldn't try to work thigs out verbally. I mean, he showed up to the meeting, so is he not trying to extend some form of "friendship"?
I'm not some hippy liberal. I believe there is a time and place for war, but Iran is not it at this time. We need to make actual steps towards diplomacy instead of screaming WMD.
An evil event is evil, regardless of who is committing it... US, Iran, Israel, etc. The P.O.V. is used to justify that evil act, but does not change that it is evil itself. Evil is not a fluid word, it has a definition. People sometimes justify evil and call it good, however that is not the case...
Actions are up to interpretation and then classification based on the definitions of words. If something is evil, we can't change the meaning of evil so that that event is not evil.
Truth is not up to interpretation... because if it were then it would not be true. Truth is constant and eternal, regardless of our opinions like I demonstrated with my first bright red post.
Real truth is unchanging, which is the nature of truth. It is true regardless of whether or not people acknowledge it being true.
i.e. You exist. If I were to say that you don't exist, you would still exist, meaning you exist... regardless of what I say about your existence.
04-23-2009, 12:27 AM
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I think you are trying to say that in the past Israel was aggressive, but as of right now they are not? Correct me if I am wrong.
"What do you propose we do with Israel?"
Exterminating them is not an option, and I understand that you were trying to be funny.
To say that Israel as been non aggressive is a complete fallacy. Israel is directly defying international law by having troops in the West Bank. That is by itself an act of aggression. Also, Israel has imposed blockades and bombed the Gaza strip continually. That sounds like aggression to me.So just being curious - If someone from a nearby town was shelling your town with rockets, would that not be reason for your town to call out the troops to defend your town? Blockades provide some sense of security, and bombing the Gaza Strip? In RESPONSE to terrorist actions, possibly...but they have nothing to gain by simply carpet bombing places, or they would have already nuked Iran clean out of existence.
If the US stopped supporting it, Israel would be taken over. That by itself is an issue. Israel cannot be dissolved now, rather they need to start working with the nations around them, instead of provoking violence. They need to get in line with international law to better the relations with other countries in the world. Diplomacy and knowledge are needed to fix the problem.From the looks of it, you don't quite understand the history of Israel - how it was founded, the amount of aggression that it's had to endure - and how many lives are lost trying to pursue peace in that region.
Knowing why there is an issue is half the battle, and from their you can provide resolutions.
"What do you propose we do with Israel?"
Exterminating them is not an option, and I understand that you were trying to be funny.
To say that Israel as been non aggressive is a complete fallacy. Israel is directly defying international law by having troops in the West Bank. That is by itself an act of aggression. Also, Israel has imposed blockades and bombed the Gaza strip continually. That sounds like aggression to me.So just being curious - If someone from a nearby town was shelling your town with rockets, would that not be reason for your town to call out the troops to defend your town? Blockades provide some sense of security, and bombing the Gaza Strip? In RESPONSE to terrorist actions, possibly...but they have nothing to gain by simply carpet bombing places, or they would have already nuked Iran clean out of existence.
If the US stopped supporting it, Israel would be taken over. That by itself is an issue. Israel cannot be dissolved now, rather they need to start working with the nations around them, instead of provoking violence. They need to get in line with international law to better the relations with other countries in the world. Diplomacy and knowledge are needed to fix the problem.From the looks of it, you don't quite understand the history of Israel - how it was founded, the amount of aggression that it's had to endure - and how many lives are lost trying to pursue peace in that region.
Knowing why there is an issue is half the battle, and from their you can provide resolutions.
Personally, any country who has a leader who's publicly calling for the extermination of an entire race?? I'd assassinate that leader IMMEDIATELY if not sooner. The world doesn't need another Hitler - and that's EXACTLY who this a**clown running Iran reminds me of currently.
04-23-2009, 12:39 AM
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Read your own words. Who started the Six Day War? Oh, that's right - it wasn't Israel. We could go on and on, and the VAST majority of any actions Israel has taken have been justified defense of their people.
Personally, any country who has a leader who's publicly calling for the extermination of an entire race?? I'd assassinate that leader IMMEDIATELY if not sooner. The world doesn't need another Hitler - and that's EXACTLY who this a**clown running Iran reminds me of currently.
Personally, any country who has a leader who's publicly calling for the extermination of an entire race?? I'd assassinate that leader IMMEDIATELY if not sooner. The world doesn't need another Hitler - and that's EXACTLY who this a**clown running Iran reminds me of currently.
I'm a small country, I see a big country, who has nukes, but says we can't have nukes, I see them putting bases all over the place, but we cant. I don't allow them to enslave us for our natural resources, so I prevent the US from coming in, I am an evil man?
The empire of Adolf Hitler is no more. At least it isn't called that, the invasion of the ****'s isn't the invasion of the ****'s, it's protecting and promoting Democracy. A whole new set of tactics for propaganda is being used.
04-23-2009, 12:47 AM
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I'm a small country, I see a big country, who has nukes, but says we can't have nukes, I see them putting bases all over the place, but we can't. I don't allow them to enslave us for our natural resources, so I prevent the U.S. from coming in, I am an evil man?
The empire of Adolf Hitler is no more. At least it isn't called that, the invasion of the ****'s isn't the invasion of the ****'s, it's protecting and promoting Democracy. A whole new set of tactics for propaganda is being used.
The empire of Adolf Hitler is no more. At least it isn't called that, the invasion of the ****'s isn't the invasion of the ****'s, it's protecting and promoting Democracy. A whole new set of tactics for propaganda is being used.
If you're the leader of a small country who's simply trying to make his way in the world, not threatening anybody, not wishing to exterminate a race of people, then it wouldn't make any sense for me to position myself to obliterate your country. It would make me look like the bully, and world-wide opinion would be against me.
Hence, if I were to advise the leader of the small country, I'd tell him to STFU and keep to his own go##amn self!!
04-23-2009, 08:29 AM
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Tehran will be just as easy to conquer as Baghdad. The difference is there will be a government to replace AMDJ immeadiately after we topple him and life will continue as normal.
Loss of life will be very little by both his military and civilians.
He is in a very bad spot and continuing to spew fourth filth from his mouth is the last thing he should be doing. Especially with our current administration extending the olive branch.
04-23-2009, 08:46 AM
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The only reason we haven't done that is their massive oil reserves. Turn that into a nuke zone, and we can't have at it. Besides, wouldn't that make us just as bad as they are if we were to exterminate an entire country? That's what they want to do to Israel, I understand, but doing that to them might be considered genocide as well.
04-23-2009, 08:53 AM
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I just think the US did this purposely to have an Israel just to have a reason to provoke the other countries around it. If there are natural resources, you bet the United States will try to wiggle itself in there of course making us LOOK good. That's how we've always done ****. Pearl Harbor (intelligence knew, and let them bomb us), Gulf of Tonkin (proven fake, Vietnamese never shot a US ship) 9/11 (the towers were rigged with explosives that even the NAVY rarely uses). Iran is next, just figuring a way how to provoke Iran to attack and use some protective clause.
04-23-2009, 08:53 AM
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