Union City red light violators off the hook

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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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Union City red light violators off the hook

September 24, 2005 - "Every ticket generated by red-light enforcement cameras in (Union City) before last Saturday will be dismissed due to a snafu — letting thousands of red-light runners off the hook and costing the city almost half a million dollars in anticipated revenue.

Police officials and city engineers discovered last week that the yellow-light duration at every one of its camera-enforced intersections was too short — in some cases, by more than a second. The city began using cameras this summer at five intersections along Alvarado-Niles Road and Union City Boulevard."


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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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Red Light camera enforcement is illegal anyway
Old Sep 27, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jonp
Red Light camera enforcement is illegal anyway
IIRC, the cameras were being operated by a private company on behalf of the city. They were taking a cut as payment. This is considered unconstitutional and probably contributed to the stuff being thrown out.
Old Sep 27, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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they lost money? how can they lose money that was going to be fined by their sihtty cams, fkucin jerks just trying to get us

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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Lorry
IIRC, the cameras were being operated by a private company on behalf of the city. They were taking a cut as payment. This is considered unconstitutional and probably contributed to the stuff being thrown out.
It looks like they got the tickets thrown out on a technicality of the yellow lights not being long enough. I really wish they'd just take the camera enforcement thing out hard and fast. They already have speed/radar/laser cameras on tollways and turnpikes on the east coast. Those won't be too far off in CA soon. It's all about the money for them. These cameras don't make you safer, they just make the gov's more money.
Old Sep 27, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lorry
IIRC, the cameras were being operated by a private company on behalf of the city. They were taking a cut as payment. This is considered unconstitutional and probably contributed to the stuff being thrown out.

Just curious, how is this considered unconstitutional? (just in case I ever have to fight one of these tickets) Thanks.
Old Sep 27, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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lol, I saw then adjusting it on Union City blvd. all day today. Guys are on an SUV with a short ladder and folks driving by were flippin them off.

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FYI, in Texas they considered that invation of privacy due to the picture taking thing (mistress in the car etc. sent in the mail busted by wife and wound up divorcing etc.)...
Old Sep 27, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by WRBlueGirl
Just curious, how is this considered unconstitutional? (just in case I ever have to fight one of these tickets) Thanks.
http://www.ticketassassin.com/autoillegal.html
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by WRBlueGirl
Just curious, how is this considered unconstitutional? (just in case I ever have to fight one of these tickets) Thanks.
It is unconstitutional because you are being policed by someone who is not a sworn agent of the government in any way. The cameras are mostly run by Lockheed Martin who gets a $70 cut of your fine.

The cameras also use a radar/laser gun that is automated when they take your photo, so that they know you are actually driving through the intersection. It uses a point to point timing system to determine your speed. In california an automated speed detection device from point to point is considered a speed trap and is illegal.

You can see most of this info here:
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Thanks for the info. I would be curious to see how much of the bill the taxpayers had to foot initially. Also, I am sure we will also be paying for the legal costs associated with the cameras once they are required to be removed.

Especially since the cameras haven't really reduced any problems on Union City Blvd., other than temporary increase they received in revenue!



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