is this true about intakes?
is this true about intakes?
...We simply refuse to provide remapped ECUs for cars with aftermarket intakes unless in-house custom dyno tuning is performed. And even then, there is absolutely no benefit (as far as performance goes) of running the intake. But there is an extra hour of tuning free incurred since I have to revise the entire fuel table to compensate for the MAF sensor misreadings that the particular intake induces. Just not worth it unless one must have the sound or the underhood look that the intake provides.
http://www.wrxforum.com/cgi-bin/ulti...c;f=2;t=000395
thanx guys
chris
Chris,
Running a open element type filter (doesn't have a cover, you can see the filter with your eyes) like a conical K&N won't really help performance per say, cause no matter the intake temp from the filter (unless it's like hella hot), the turbo is going to heat that **** up waaaaaaaay hot anyways. HOWEVER, running an open element filter DOES improve sound! Intake noise is hear, meaning more spool sound and more BOV sound. So, for me, it would be worth it to pick up a short ram intake with an open element end.
As your buddy, let me direct you to www.mpjperformance.com
Pick up a Perrin Short Ram or MRT Rampod intake!
Or even that snazzy Blitz SUS intake... it's pretty badass.
(but don't rally around in your car, don' want to get too much dirt in that intake)
-Gagan
Running a open element type filter (doesn't have a cover, you can see the filter with your eyes) like a conical K&N won't really help performance per say, cause no matter the intake temp from the filter (unless it's like hella hot), the turbo is going to heat that **** up waaaaaaaay hot anyways. HOWEVER, running an open element filter DOES improve sound! Intake noise is hear, meaning more spool sound and more BOV sound. So, for me, it would be worth it to pick up a short ram intake with an open element end.
As your buddy, let me direct you to www.mpjperformance.com
Pick up a Perrin Short Ram or MRT Rampod intake!
Or even that snazzy Blitz SUS intake... it's pretty badass.
(but don't rally around in your car, don' want to get too much dirt in that intake)
-Gagan
Last edited by joltdudeuc; Apr 21, 2003 at 09:28 AM.
haha thanx for the advice gagan but im already goin to mpf for my sti hood scoop and hks tt type 1. ah yeah haha but now im confused on wat i should be getting for my next mod....definately a boost controller and maybe a dp/ up combo? or maybe i should invest in some defi gauges.....oh well either way i wont be buying for a while...help me out gagan!
chris
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Originally posted by itsallgookx51
whoa can this be true? intake does nothing? i read the following posts but i just want someone to slap me and tell me this is true.
Consider yourself slapped.
This has been discussed on various message boards and a search will produce the threads to read. Since a number of tuners have come to a similar conclusion based on the thread you cited, I think that it doesn't do any real harm to run an intake. If you like the way it looks and sounds then go for it. I just change the element once a year and the factory intake works fine for me.
Get a boost gauge before you increase the boost. If the gauge is built into the EBC (electronic boost controller) make sure you can see it when you're driving - under the dash is too low to watch the readout and drive safely. I wouldn't exceed 16 pounds of boost on an otherwise unmodified WRX.
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whoa can this be true? intake does nothing? i read the following posts but i just want someone to slap me and tell me this is true.
Consider yourself slapped.
This has been discussed on various message boards and a search will produce the threads to read. Since a number of tuners have come to a similar conclusion based on the thread you cited, I think that it doesn't do any real harm to run an intake. If you like the way it looks and sounds then go for it. I just change the element once a year and the factory intake works fine for me.
Get a boost gauge before you increase the boost. If the gauge is built into the EBC (electronic boost controller) make sure you can see it when you're driving - under the dash is too low to watch the readout and drive safely. I wouldn't exceed 16 pounds of boost on an otherwise unmodified WRX.
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0==WW==0
"…axles of evil…" - george w. bush
Interms of intakes, get something from MPJ
Other than that, I'd say skip the boost controller for now.
Get a UP/DP... um, also availble from MPJ...
You got an exhaust yet?
-Gagan
Other than that, I'd say skip the boost controller for now.
Get a UP/DP... um, also availble from MPJ...
You got an exhaust yet?
-Gagan
thank you wingless wonder for slapping me and waking me up from thiis horrible dream...i dreamt that a cai did nothing for the wrx....whoa glad it was just a drea.....wha it was true? DAMN! haha jp yeah i did a search on a few forums to make sure i was hearing it correctly.
and hey gagan no i dont have an exaust yet i figure its fine for now and im focusing on the perin uppipe and dp combo! i wanted to get the boost controller so i can set it at a certain boost so i dont spike. just looking out for my sweet lil baby....(wrx by the way) haha but im goin to mpj tomorow for my sti hoodscoop and my tt. ill tell gino and mike you said hi
chris
and hey gagan no i dont have an exaust yet i figure its fine for now and im focusing on the perin uppipe and dp combo! i wanted to get the boost controller so i can set it at a certain boost so i dont spike. just looking out for my sweet lil baby....(wrx by the way) haha but im goin to mpj tomorow for my sti hoodscoop and my tt. ill tell gino and mike you said hi
chris
what time are you going?
Don't worry about stock boost spikes... Get Intake, UP, DP, and a cat back and that should smooth out the car well.
Catback suggestion: Stromung, 2.5", Stainless Steel... for the deep boxer note, torque and power.
-Gagan
Don't worry about stock boost spikes... Get Intake, UP, DP, and a cat back and that should smooth out the car well.
Catback suggestion: Stromung, 2.5", Stainless Steel... for the deep boxer note, torque and power.
-Gagan
Oh, and run some good gas... and remember, PREMIUM ONLY!
I suggest Chevron or 76. However, i think chevron gives better gas mileage, as ehtanol sure does burn quicker than MTBE!
-Gagan
I suggest Chevron or 76. However, i think chevron gives better gas mileage, as ehtanol sure does burn quicker than MTBE!
-Gagan
intake? didnt we already establish that id does nothing for the wrx cept lean out the af ratio? why i wont have to worry about boost spikes? uhhh im probably gonna head over to mpj around 1030 so i can be there by 11 or so.
chris
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Don't buy an intake.
The most restrictive part of the WRX intake is.....the TURBO!
If you're gonna do anything to help breathing, replace the stock uppipe, and install silicone intercooler hoses....those mods show up on tha dyno, yo!
The most restrictive part of the WRX intake is.....the TURBO!
If you're gonna do anything to help breathing, replace the stock uppipe, and install silicone intercooler hoses....those mods show up on tha dyno, yo!
Originally posted by dahveed
Don't buy an intake.
The most restrictive part of the WRX intake is.....the TURBO!
If you're gonna do anything to help breathing, replace the stock uppipe, and install silicone intercooler hoses....those mods show up on tha dyno, yo!
Don't buy an intake.
The most restrictive part of the WRX intake is.....the TURBO!
If you're gonna do anything to help breathing, replace the stock uppipe, and install silicone intercooler hoses....those mods show up on tha dyno, yo!
THE SOUND!
gotta do it for the sound!
"it aint' like it juss fo decoration"
-Gagan