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would you go to the discount doc working out of a shed? i don't think so. providers know people will pay whatever amount (whether they can afford it or not) to get as close to the best care as possible. however, hospitals are always strapped for cash due to the insurance companies. that's my gripe.
I do agree though that the insurance companies are the root of the problem.
-- Ed
Also modern day dr's have found ways to keep their well oiled system with the insurance companies working, and many are forced to concentrate on that instead of their patients.
I think the market will go back up, it's all fear based crap thanks to the idiots like BONER, yes his name is not BAYNOR, IT"S BOEHNER LIKE A DICK, don't him fool you.
I think the market will go back up, it's all fear based crap thanks to the idiots like BONER, yes his name is not BAYNOR, IT"S BOEHNER LIKE A DICK, don't him fool you.
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There is no reason that you can't have great health care without the executives on top making tons of money. Expensive health care does not necessarily mean quality these days. It just means that someone on top is making way too much money and in most cases its actually at the expense of the quality of care provided.
I do agree though that the insurance companies are the root of the problem.
-- Ed
I do agree though that the insurance companies are the root of the problem.
-- Ed
Doctors and hospitals account for over 50% of health insurance expenditures.
Insurance companies only account for 12%.
Do drink the kool aid.
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And you'd be wrong: Health-care security, who is to blame for high costs.
Doctors and hospitals account for over 50% of health insurance expenditures.
Insurance companies only account for 12%.
Do drink the kool aid.
Doctors and hospitals account for over 50% of health insurance expenditures.
Insurance companies only account for 12%.
Do drink the kool aid.
-- Ed
should have sold everything today and invested in this...lol
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I refuse to look. I treat my 401k as a long term investment. I'm still young enough (33) to stay pretty aggressive. So I leave it.
When the market popped 3 years ago I lost something like 30k. Nothing compared to most people but I was down over 50%. That account almost back to where it was a few years ago. One of my other ones has been doing pretty well. Up like 21% this year. I expected things to drop soon.
I figure I'm probably at about 85% of where I should be. I just keep adding to it when I can and hoping that when I'm 60 there's enough to retire on because there will be no Social Security in 30 years. No health care. No nothing. Anyone that hasn't been planning for retiring on their own dime needs to get in gear.
When the market popped 3 years ago I lost something like 30k. Nothing compared to most people but I was down over 50%. That account almost back to where it was a few years ago. One of my other ones has been doing pretty well. Up like 21% this year. I expected things to drop soon.
I figure I'm probably at about 85% of where I should be. I just keep adding to it when I can and hoping that when I'm 60 there's enough to retire on because there will be no Social Security in 30 years. No health care. No nothing. Anyone that hasn't been planning for retiring on their own dime needs to get in gear.
Gotta stay positive! Best investment ever.
LOL exactly! Everytime they pronounce it "Bayner" I always say "How is the O silent? lol Mr Boner must have gotten made fun of a lot back when he was in school, so he made it a point to change it to "bayner"
