Lol but lets see people of iclub even try that. I say 99/100 will do what that kid did with his M3. Just cause it's done by European engineers doesn't mean its amazing. Just cause the car is Japanese doesn't mean it will run 300,000 miles. Because it has 400+hp doesn't mean it's a fast car.


Also I'm really tired of wide open tracks. Nurburgring is a bit better but come on put these cars on Tsukuba or Ebisu South..... Get Tsuchiya in an M5 different story.

Now put some of these cars on a Mountain like Hammy, highly doubt you'd have the ***** to even drive a GT500/302 up that fast.

 

100% agree and I hate American cars but you can't deny Ford has integrated new tech into their engines, tranny, and suspension. I just wish Subaru would follow. Even Acura's new TL has amazing AWD that literally grips the car to the road even in rain/snow. The EJ257, 6MT, and DCCD can only be used so many times in a new chassis.

I just want to see them develope a new car with 2012/13 technology fir the enthusiasts that have always wanted a bit more.

 

News flash. There is NO MORE EVO.

 

Or.... They could make a WRX CW....

 

this.

 

The ford is fast like an m3. Unfortunately while a solid axle can corner at high speeds and get good times, plain and simple it feels like **** for the driver. Solid axle makes cars like these very hard to drive on cayon type stuff e.g. bump surfaces. I like a car to feel like it wants to be pushed not like I'm going to die.

Fords technology improvements seem to be limited to the engines and interiors. OF course the boss 302 is a nice car, it's nearly a 50,000 dollar+ mustang, and when it's identical to the m3 e.g. the more expensive boss 302 it is over 50k. Also there is a whole thing called 50/50 weight distro of the m3 vs. the boss 55/45. Mustang could be a engineered a helluv a lot better.

No excuse for that **** design at this point other than cheapness.


I'm not kidding about the Cobra R, while stiffer they are very close to a 99/01 cobra r in terms of suspension. The new mustang just doesn't feel this good IMO.

 

Interesting use of the word. I didn't know AWD could literally grip anything. Provide more traction yes, but grip???

This same discussion happens every time a new WRX/STi comes out. None of them have been "good looking" since the GC/GM/GF IMHO, though the GR came close.

Carry on.

-Brian

 

I actually like the look of the current model. Not as good as the GC/GF/GM though.

 

Ok? I suggest you read some auto blogs the term "grip to the road" is often used when discussing AWD on some cars. Did you not get my point or are you just trying to be asshat? Traction = Acceleration. Grip = lateral loads (Gs). It wasn't a hard sentence to read or understand. Apologies .

The GD was one of my favorites. GR's look nice too.

 

uh negative. DCCD 6mt in the Sti is one of the greatest stock trans you can get. It handles a **** ton of power, and the diffs are incredible for grip. Maybe what you are referring to is locking the front diff etc? being harmful to the car. or abusing the car? Otherwise you are just dead wrong on the sti 6mt.Ford is the same old tranny, if you driven one you know how much of a turd compared to the sti trans it is. Subaru has made large improvements with the newer sti's in terms of handling but specifically ride refinement while maintaining the handling. The rear suspension of the subaru is miles and leagues ahead of the ford.

Ford has upgraded their interiors, and finally took their engine tech to be performance geared. Thats it.

 

That's exactly what I ment I never said the 6mt was bad. I know the STi is a purist car but I'd be interested in a dct version. We can agree to disagree though.

 

+1 how long has Chevy been using a T67 and LS block? What about Nissan and their reign with the RB block?

 

I actually kinda like the looks of it.. not bad

 

Well, at least the fenders will have less drag.

 

FINALLY! THANK YOU!
Nothing but a buncha illiterate Philistines in this thread.