Shop Price vs Interwebs Price
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dude I worked sales at sears in home improvement and lawn and garden and people would really try to bargain with the price.
They're like, "How much is this tool chest"
me- "$199.99 its on sale right now from the original price of $270"
them- "Can I get it for $150?"
me- "sorry it's $199.99"
them - "but what if theres a dent on it?"
me - "we're giving you a brand new one and we can't sell our display until we stop selling that item"
them - "oh okay, so I can get it for for $150?"
me- "NO *expletive expletive*!!!!"
or, "hey 4 months ago during black friday I think I saw this on sale for $xx price, can you still get me that price?"
WTF!
They're like, "How much is this tool chest"
me- "$199.99 its on sale right now from the original price of $270"
them- "Can I get it for $150?"
me- "sorry it's $199.99"
them - "but what if theres a dent on it?"
me - "we're giving you a brand new one and we can't sell our display until we stop selling that item"
them - "oh okay, so I can get it for for $150?"
me- "NO *expletive expletive*!!!!"
or, "hey 4 months ago during black friday I think I saw this on sale for $xx price, can you still get me that price?"
WTF!
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I don't know if it's just me, but I find what the employee did a douche bag move. From what I'm reading, he asked once, and the employee gave him a hard time. I'd understand if he kept asking, "well why don't you price match" or being a nuisance, but he's just trying to save $30 by asking one simple question about price matching.
Also, a decent amount of bike shops do price match within reason, so why not try? There's so many bike shops around, if I got that response from an employee after asking a question once, I definitely would not return.
Price matching is commonplace now, and why do people complain about working retail. When you apply for a retail job, you should know what you're getting into and that you're going to be getting moronic customers. I, for one, know I can't deal with them, which is why I've never worked retail, and looked for other jobs where I didn't have to deal with those customers.
Labor, on the other hand, is a completely different matter.
Also, a decent amount of bike shops do price match within reason, so why not try? There's so many bike shops around, if I got that response from an employee after asking a question once, I definitely would not return.
Price matching is commonplace now, and why do people complain about working retail. When you apply for a retail job, you should know what you're getting into and that you're going to be getting moronic customers. I, for one, know I can't deal with them, which is why I've never worked retail, and looked for other jobs where I didn't have to deal with those customers.
Labor, on the other hand, is a completely different matter.
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well said!
The longer you work in retail the more things you will experience and hear. Businesses are there to make a profit, but if you nitpick and give out bad customer service, you WILL fail.
Just look at Circuit City . They had poorly trained employees and treated customers like dirt. The ONLY reason you are in businesses is that a customer wakes up and decides to go to your place and look around and maybe buy something. Turning a profit is how well you meet their needs and come up with a solution for why they came in to your store.
The longer you work in retail the more things you will experience and hear. Businesses are there to make a profit, but if you nitpick and give out bad customer service, you WILL fail.
Just look at Circuit City . They had poorly trained employees and treated customers like dirt. The ONLY reason you are in businesses is that a customer wakes up and decides to go to your place and look around and maybe buy something. Turning a profit is how well you meet their needs and come up with a solution for why they came in to your store.
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Not picking on you in particular, but let's play this senario out:
Me, the employer: I'm paying you $20/hr. I can get someone else to do the same job for $13/hr. Will you allow me to lower your hrly wage to $15/hr?
You:_________________.
Fill in the underlined are.
Me, the employer: I'm paying you $20/hr. I can get someone else to do the same job for $13/hr. Will you allow me to lower your hrly wage to $15/hr?
You:_________________.
Fill in the underlined are.
I don't know if it's just me, but I find what the employee did a douche bag move. From what I'm reading, he asked once, and the employee gave him a hard time. I'd understand if he kept asking, "well why don't you price match" or being a nuisance, but he's just trying to save $30 by asking one simple question about price matching.
Also, a decent amount of bike shops do price match within reason, so why not try? There's so many bike shops around, if I got that response from an employee after asking a question once, I definitely would not return.
Price matching is commonplace now, and why do people complain about working retail. When you apply for a retail job, you should know what you're getting into and that you're going to be getting moronic customers. I, for one, know I can't deal with them, which is why I've never worked retail, and looked for other jobs where I didn't have to deal with those customers.
Labor, on the other hand, is a completely different matter.
Also, a decent amount of bike shops do price match within reason, so why not try? There's so many bike shops around, if I got that response from an employee after asking a question once, I definitely would not return.
Price matching is commonplace now, and why do people complain about working retail. When you apply for a retail job, you should know what you're getting into and that you're going to be getting moronic customers. I, for one, know I can't deal with them, which is why I've never worked retail, and looked for other jobs where I didn't have to deal with those customers.
Labor, on the other hand, is a completely different matter.
I don't know if it's just me, but I find what the employee did a douche bag move. From what I'm reading, he asked once, and the employee gave him a hard time. I'd understand if he kept asking, "well why don't you price match" or being a nuisance, but he's just trying to save $30 by asking one simple question about price matching.
Also, a decent amount of bike shops do price match within reason, so why not try? There's so many bike shops around, if I got that response from an employee after asking a question once, I definitely would not return.
Price matching is commonplace now, and why do people complain about working retail. When you apply for a retail job, you should know what you're getting into and that you're going to be getting moronic customers. I, for one, know I can't deal with them, which is why I've never worked retail, and looked for other jobs where I didn't have to deal with those customers.
Labor, on the other hand, is a completely different matter.
Also, a decent amount of bike shops do price match within reason, so why not try? There's so many bike shops around, if I got that response from an employee after asking a question once, I definitely would not return.
Price matching is commonplace now, and why do people complain about working retail. When you apply for a retail job, you should know what you're getting into and that you're going to be getting moronic customers. I, for one, know I can't deal with them, which is why I've never worked retail, and looked for other jobs where I didn't have to deal with those customers.
Labor, on the other hand, is a completely different matter.
Complaining about working retail is one of my biggest pet peeves. I've worked retail/food service throughout high school and college, and knowing what to expect truly helps in coping with asshat customers. if you know what you're getting in to, it just makes it funny instead of annoying. Plus, in all honesty, it's not all that challenging. I've worked volunteer/internship (read: unpaid) gigs that are waaay more demanding in terms of time and mental effort. if you hate your retail job, wait til you start a true career job (even at a retail establishment) where the amount of asshat customers, co-workers, and bosses you have to deal with is exponentially greater. trust me, i used to work at McDonalds (which was great, i personally got to sprinkle crack on the fries, shhhh). it's all about perspective.
I think it would be better than getting laid off to have the option of a paycut.
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Obviously, a company does not need a contract to protect themselves from not price matching, but normally they'll have a price matching policy, where everything is explained.
Plus, if you noticed my last sentence, labor is a completely different matter
.What I was trying to say in my previous post, was, price matching is somewhat common, what's so hard as saying a simple "no" if the customer only asked once?
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oh gawd... i hear this argument all the time from small business owners (my brother in law). well, of course, you make it really obvious that if we were the employee in this scenario we would say "no i would not allow that to happen", which would mean you couldn't charge lower prices. (also, not trying to pick on you, but the scenario in general) but this is the model you chose to set up. it was your choice through no convincing of anyone else, including your customers (us). just because we would not take a pay cut in this scenario does not mean a new customer should not be able to inquire about price matching. so it's confusing when you blame/ridicule/exhibit passive aggressiveness towards customers for not knowing the nuances of your business model. i'm a genuine local customer who would rather support the local shops and pay a slightly higher price (even after asking about price matching - a simple yes or no question), and if i got that kind of response from a local business, i most likely would not go back. if the shop told me simply 'i'm really sorry, but we cant price match' and went on to shoot the **** with me, i'd buy from them.
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oh gawd... i hear this argument all the time from small business owners (my brother in law). well, of course, you make it really obvious that if we were the employee in this scenario we would say "no i would not allow that to happen", which would mean you couldn't charge lower prices. (also, not trying to pick on you, but the scenario in general) but this is the model you chose to set up. it was your choice through no convincing of anyone else, including your customers (us). just because we would not take a pay cut in this scenario does not mean a new customer should not be able to inquire about price matching. so it's confusing when you blame/ridicule/exhibit passive aggressiveness towards customers for not knowing the nuances of your business model. i'm a genuine local customer who would rather support the local shops and pay a slightly higher price (even after asking about price matching - a simple yes or no question), and if i got that kind of response from a local business, i most likely would not go back. if the shop told me simply 'i'm really sorry, but we cant price match' and went on to shoot the **** with me, i'd buy from them.
nice!!!
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Here's my take...
Will I price match an internet store? Nope. Will I get as close as I can without losing money? Sure. Why? Look at it this way - I can turn you away and not get any of your money, thus losing a sale and some profit OR I can offer a bit of a discount, make you happy and retain that profit (and we all agree that profit is my end goal). You're even more likely to return if we help you, thus upping customer retention. Heck, I'll even stand around and chat as long as I can at no additional charge.
A lot of people don't consider EVERYTHING involved in online sales - shipping, handling, tax (sometimes), wait time, etc. Often the item you were getting such a great 'deal' on ends up costing you MORE money in the long run. Everything has to be considered when ordering something online.
Do I buy things online? Of course I do. When I do I usually buy from Amazon or similar that has no tax and no shipping. When I buy things in person (often, despite better prices online) it's because I can touch, try, whatever the item before I buy it and to me that's worth a bit of extra scratch. Not to mention the help I get from a person actually standing there talking to me. Makes a world of difference in my eyes.
I've run many a parts department as well as the (at the time) largest Subaru aftermarket site so I have a balanced view of things (at least I think I do). In todays world finding a balance is the important bit.
I still chuckled at the story.
Will I price match an internet store? Nope. Will I get as close as I can without losing money? Sure. Why? Look at it this way - I can turn you away and not get any of your money, thus losing a sale and some profit OR I can offer a bit of a discount, make you happy and retain that profit (and we all agree that profit is my end goal). You're even more likely to return if we help you, thus upping customer retention. Heck, I'll even stand around and chat as long as I can at no additional charge.
A lot of people don't consider EVERYTHING involved in online sales - shipping, handling, tax (sometimes), wait time, etc. Often the item you were getting such a great 'deal' on ends up costing you MORE money in the long run. Everything has to be considered when ordering something online.
Do I buy things online? Of course I do. When I do I usually buy from Amazon or similar that has no tax and no shipping. When I buy things in person (often, despite better prices online) it's because I can touch, try, whatever the item before I buy it and to me that's worth a bit of extra scratch. Not to mention the help I get from a person actually standing there talking to me. Makes a world of difference in my eyes.
I've run many a parts department as well as the (at the time) largest Subaru aftermarket site so I have a balanced view of things (at least I think I do). In todays world finding a balance is the important bit.
I still chuckled at the story.
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True story: Customer signed an estimate(contract) authorizing the work(engine overhaul).
Customer came in to pick up car after the job was complete and asked for "cash" discount.
"Just knock off the sales tax", was the demanding request.
Punch line: THEY WORK FOR BOARD OF EQUALIZATION!!!(sales tax dept)

BTW:
If you buy something from out of state, in person or via internet/mail/etc, you must pay the state "use tax" which happens to be the same rate as sales tax.
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Here's one of my experiences at Sports Authority:
Bought an NBA game ball
Clerk: That'll be $109.99 please
Me: Umm, but your company's website says it's listed at $89.99. Why is it $109.99?
Clerk: Hold on. Lemme get the manager.
Manager: What can I do for you today?
Me: *repeats words above* Can't you price match your own company's website listing?
Manager: Sorry we don't price match, even if it's from our own website.
Me: Umm ok....
Good thing I had a $25 off coupon, that I printed ONLINE from their website. Either way I lose, cause the internet price was $89.99 with any order over $50 gets free shipping. Since I was there at the store with the item, I reluctantly bought it anyways.
Bought an NBA game ball
Clerk: That'll be $109.99 please
Me: Umm, but your company's website says it's listed at $89.99. Why is it $109.99?
Clerk: Hold on. Lemme get the manager.
Manager: What can I do for you today?
Me: *repeats words above* Can't you price match your own company's website listing?
Manager: Sorry we don't price match, even if it's from our own website.
Me: Umm ok....
Good thing I had a $25 off coupon, that I printed ONLINE from their website. Either way I lose, cause the internet price was $89.99 with any order over $50 gets free shipping. Since I was there at the store with the item, I reluctantly bought it anyways.

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I had a customer ask use to match an internet price, $99 total compared to out $129+tax.
I told her over the phone that if she wanted it for $99 she'd have to buy it online (explained warehouse shipping vs store front costs) but if she wanted to support local businesses she could come in and buy it for the price that helps us stay in business, $129+tax. I didn't even get into sales tax not being a punishment, but being a source of funds for local and state government speech. She then came into the store to look at the product, again asked for cheaper price/discount. I said no, but what I can offer her is answering any questions face to face, letting her see the product in person, helping her fit the product (a dog ramp) to her Lexus SUV, and showing her how to use it. Again she asked for cheaper price. "No."
She walked out of the store with the product after paying full price. I kind of miss retail work because of the challenge of working with retárds.
I told her over the phone that if she wanted it for $99 she'd have to buy it online (explained warehouse shipping vs store front costs) but if she wanted to support local businesses she could come in and buy it for the price that helps us stay in business, $129+tax. I didn't even get into sales tax not being a punishment, but being a source of funds for local and state government speech. She then came into the store to look at the product, again asked for cheaper price/discount. I said no, but what I can offer her is answering any questions face to face, letting her see the product in person, helping her fit the product (a dog ramp) to her Lexus SUV, and showing her how to use it. Again she asked for cheaper price. "No."
She walked out of the store with the product after paying full price. I kind of miss retail work because of the challenge of working with retárds.


