Scion owner: forward facing scoops (ie turboed Subarus) cause cars to hydroplane

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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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Scion owner: forward facing scoops (ie turboed Subarus) cause cars to hydroplane

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15150

Foward facing scoops (think Subaru Impreza WRX/STi) does brings air into the engine bay, but it all doesn't go into your engine, most of the air has to go somewhere? Where? It hits the firewall and goes under your car, causing a lift and possible hydroplaining in the rain.

Rear facing scoops like the one on the S2000 pictures above doesnt pull air into the engine bay, but rather creates a path for the air to leave the engine bay, therefore the air comes in through the grill, and goes out the scoop rather than under the car. You can also get more downforce from this set up.

For the Scion's you might want a reverse scoop like on the S2000 above, you will get more downforce and your engine will stay much cooler. If you get the foward facing scoop youre gonna hydroplane easier.
my head hurts from such bad physics.

Wait, maybe this is why Subaru's understeer. Less grip in front, ahaha
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 04:15 PM
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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Rear facing scoops like the one on the S2000 pictures above doesnt pull air into the engine bay, but rather creates a path for the air to leave the engine bay, therefore the air comes in through the grill, and goes out the scoop rather than under the car.
That's not quite true. Rear facing scoops take advantage of a high pressure area at the base of the windshield. That's why old school '69 Z-28 Camaros used them on the street and SCCA Trans Am series way back when. Air actually enters the rear-facing scoop under slight pressure but not enough for any real supercharging effect, just cooler outside air above the dirt and grit at road level.

So the guy on that Scion forum is incorrect. And I don't care. I don't even know what a Scion is!

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Originally Posted by Wingless Wonder
That's not quite true. Rear facing scoops take advantage of a high pressure area at the base of the windshield. That's why old school '69 Z-28 Camaros used them on the street and SCCA Trans Am series way back when. Air actually enters the rear-facing scoop under slight pressure but not enough for any real supercharging effect, just cooler outside air above the dirt and grit at road level.

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Cowl Induction Neil Crawford actually redesigned his COBB intake on his RS to work as a Cowl Induction intake. He named it Bob

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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kostamojen
Cowel Induction Neil Crawford actually redesigned his COBB intake on his RS to work as a Cowel Induction intake. He named it Bob

Cowl induction? If you're gonna make it a proper name, you've gotta spell it right

Now, I could see cowel induction on this car...


I kid, I kid.

Bob was good for some decent gains, if I remember correctly.......
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Originally Posted by sybir
Cowl induction? If you're gonna make it a proper name, you've gotta spell it right

Now, I could see cowel induction on this car...


I kid, I kid.

Bob was good for some decent gains, if I remember correctly.......
I edited it before you posted that
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