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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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All my dogs have been pure breds, there is a reason I like pure breds over muts. Sorry but the people that have muts need to fix them so people don't feel the need to adopt these cross breeds.
Alot of "pure" breeds were mutts at some time or another.
Old Dec 15, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Just check the different shelters and most of them use petfinder.com to list whats in the shelters. Craigslist only allows adoptions now, no more breeders. Check the shelters in smaller counties, its sometimes worth a trip up there and most are pretty flexible since they really try to get rid of their stock.

I just went through this about 4 months back and they wouldn't let me adopt a pit/dalmation mix because I had to have papers signed saying my homeowners insurance was ok with me having a pitbull. I ended up getting a pure bred pit from a friend whose rented house was sold by the owner and couldn't keep his pups anymore. I love my dog even though she has her quirks, makes a great companion and she loves running with me. Shes registerred and licensed as a Boxer/Bulldog through the vet and county.


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I have had 4 pure breds and none have suffered from any problems do to over breeding. My point is if more people fixed their muts less dogs would end up in a shelter needing a home? Comprede? I understand that when a dog goes through a shelter they fix it. Point is how did it get there? It's not from people over breeding pure bred animals.

Muts can have unpredicatble traits, colors, temperments, and health problems where purebreds (if you look at the parents and other litters) don't share the ame issues. I know what I am getting when I PAY for my purebreds. Sorry this hits a cord with so many of you.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by STiYLIN
My point is if more people fixed their muts less dogs would end up in a shelter needing a home? Comprede? I understand that when a dog goes through a shelter they fix it. Point is how did it get there? It's not from people over breeding pure bred animals.
And I suppose owners of purebred dogs are never guilty of "backyard breeding"? Wow, you're naive...
Old Dec 15, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by STiYLIN
I have had 4 pure breds and none have suffered from any problems do to over breeding. My point is if more people fixed their muts less dogs would end up in a shelter needing a home? Comprede? I understand that when a dog goes through a shelter they fix it. Point is how did it get there? It's not from people over breeding pure bred animals.

Muts can have unpredicatble traits, colors, temperments, and health problems where purebreds (if you look at the parents and other litters) don't share the ame issues. I know what I am getting when I PAY for my purebreds. Sorry this hits a cord with so many of you.
Do you really "know what you are getting"? My parents used to breed Akitas and every so often we would end up with a pup that had health problems that were non-existant down the parents lines. We could trace back our dogs more than 7 generations and it was a major selling point, but thats about it. For 15 years I helped take care of and show dogs with my parents. I like my rescued dog alot more than most of the pure bred pups we had. I think the reason why most people are not agreeing with you is you sound a little eliteist in your statements...

Alot of the dogs in shelters are turnover from irresponsible owners. I know when I visited the shelter there were tons of people coming in and turning in dogs that they "just couldn't handle anymore." I got my kennel and supplies from a guy who turned in a $900 pure bred Boxer because he broke his back and couldn't take care of the dog anymore. Sure there are tons of strays and accidents do happen, but most animals at the shelter are brought in by your neighbors and community. The shelter does a great job in the fact that they require an animal to be altered before it can be adopted.

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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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I like your white one... very nice looking. Am Staff right?
Old Dec 15, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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Frestall...got any photos of those akitas?

my dog was called a chow mix when we got him but in my opinion he looks NOTHING like a chow minus the tongue being blue. From the research I did I really think he's an akita...so that's what I say he is. Most dog places we take him...parks, pet stores...the people go...oh is he an akita. No one has EVER called him a chow.



Stiyln. Nice pups. I used to have a MUT....pit/lab mix. Awesome dog.
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Not on my computer... My parents retired from that about 5 years back when we had to put down our stud male, Ice. He was all white, massive head, 140 lbs. His fathers name was Dozer, short for Bulldozer because they had unusually big heads and size for Akitas. Thats the only dog we ever had that I seriously miss, even have his picture up in my office. If you have any pictures of yours, throw one up and I can verify for you or not. Try an image search on yahoo for american akitas to give you an idea... theres a big difference between the japanese and american versions.
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Not on my computer... My parents retired from that about 5 years back when we had to put down our stud male, Ice. He was all white, massive head, 140 lbs. His fathers name was Dozer, short for Bulldozer because they had unusually big heads and size for Akitas. Thats the only dog we ever had that I seriously miss, even have his picture up in my office. If you have any pictures of yours, throw one up and I can verify for you or not. Try an image search on yahoo for american akitas to give you an idea... theres a big difference between the japanese and american versions.

I'll get some pictures of him on my comp.

He's no where near that big....he's about 85 pounds. His head is small. You can't use collars on him because they just slip off because his neck is so big. But from the pictures I've seen his stance and color is accurate as is his demeanor. His name is Rufus. He's tan..similar to chow colors but lighter and not nearly as fluffy. tan with reds browns and a bit of white around the feet.

looks exactly like this...

except he's got a blue tongue. and he's a bit thinner.
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this is him...it's all I gots.

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I'd say he looks like an akita/chow mix. My sister had a 50/50 Akita/Wolf mix and your dog looks extremely close to that, but hers was 120 lbs. He looks really close to a Shiba but hes way bigger than one if he is 85 pounds.

This is a twin of our big boy, just not a big enough head...
Old Dec 15, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by STiYLIN
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Muts can have unpredicatble traits, colors, temperments, and health problems where purebreds (if you look at the parents and other litters) don't share the ame issues. I know what I am getting when I PAY for my purebreds. Sorry this hits a cord with so many of you.

Genetic diversity makes for a stronger bloodline, it's basic darwinian theory that is taught to 12 year olds....why do you think bulldogs have trouble breeding? why is it that German Shepherds have hp problems etc etc..?? it's because of inreeding. Pedigree dogs have a disdvantageover a mutt...sorry to break the news but purebreds have the problems.

I'll tell you what, lets settle it with a contest...my mut against your purebred in an obeience contest followed by an agility course..my border collie mut will wipe the floor with any purebreed. loser buys lunch?
Old Dec 15, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
this is him...it's all I gots.

Woooot for ruffy!!!
Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
this is him...it's all I gots.

RUFUS!!!!!!!!

Both of my dogs are/were mutts. Rott/husky mix that my brother got for free from his friend. The other we literally saved from death. Chow mix. We got him at a week old. Had to bottle feed him and nurse him to health. He's now 12 and still going. Got some arthritis but other than that, he's great.

And Styln, my brother had 2 pure breed Chow's. Mother and daughter and tried to breed them. But there's no sure fire way to keep males from entering the yard when a female is in heat. They were literally digging a hole under the fence in the backyard to get to them. And the mother Chow, meanest damn dog I've ever seen in my entire life. Yea, purebreeds have great temperments.

I like mutts cause 9 times out of 10, they will have a much better personality.
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