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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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for overbear...

a number of months back, at the UCKK meet, you and sandra were having a discussion about an award given out in japan - in this case, in the automotive industry.

sandra said that there is an award for quality and excellence, but that she could not recall whom it was named after.

you kept yelling out that it was Henry Ford. she disagreed, but you persisted.

well... here is the proof to back up her statement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deming_Prize

so, anytime you want, feel free to admit that she was right and that you were wrong.
Old Apr 8, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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overbear was wrong... how could that possibly be.
Old Apr 8, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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yeah..how could an award for improvement on quality and service be named after henry ford...
found on road dead anyone?
Old Apr 8, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by yayitzian
yeah..how could an award for improvement on quality and service be named after henry ford...
found on road dead anyone?
not only that, but the award was in japan lol
Old Apr 8, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by not12listen
a number of months back, at the UCKK meet, you and sandra were having a discussion about an award given out in japan - in this case, in the automotive industry.

sandra said that there is an award for quality and excellence, but that she could not recall whom it was named after.

you kept yelling out that it was Henry Ford. she disagreed, but you persisted.

well... here is the proof to back up her statement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deming_Prize

so, anytime you want, feel free to admit that she was right and that you were wrong.
I believe you confused 2 separate parts of the talk she and I were having. The part about Henry Ford was when we were discussing "the toyota way"(TPE), not the awards. The conversation kinda was all over the board so I could see how it might have all run into each other.

If however I did do as you say, then there might have been confusion on my part and of course I would apologize over it.
Old Apr 8, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxisthebest
not only that, but the award was in japan lol
You might be surprised how respected the systems and ideals Henry Ford put together, are by the Japanese. Even Subaru uses some of the supply and building ideals Ford created way back in the day.
Old Apr 8, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
overbear was wrong... how could that possibly be.
I thought I was wrong once, turned out I was mistaken.
Old Apr 8, 2009 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Overbear
You might be surprised how respected the systems and ideals Henry Ford put together, are by the Japanese. Even Subaru uses some of the supply and building ideals Ford created way back in the day.
well yes, i understand that. but i have a hard time believing a Japanese award is going to be named after an American Auto maker. maybe the first japanese automaker would have that award named after him, but competition is competition. American vs. Japanese has been going for days, not only with cars either.
Old Apr 8, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxisthebest
well yes, i understand that. but i have a hard time believing a Japanese award is going to be named after an American Auto maker. maybe the first japanese automaker would have that award named after him, but competition is competition. American vs. Japanese has been going for days, not only with cars either.
The Japanese don't think quite like that. Its hard for me to put in words as I myself only barely understand the Japanese mindset. They view things like competition, work ideals, and even innovation in a far different way than we Americans do.

But as I said, there is no award call the Henry Ford...at least not that I know of.
Old Apr 8, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Overbear
The Japanese don't think quite like that. Its hard for me to put in words as I myself only barely understand the Japanese mindset. They view things like competition, work ideals, and even innovation in a far different way than we Americans do.

But as I said, there is no award call the Henry Ford...at least not that I know of.
hmm... ok.
Old Apr 8, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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dont test overbear. he's never wrong. duh
Old Apr 8, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wocabin
dont test overbear. he's never wrong. duh
Now your learning.
Old Apr 8, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Now your learning.
yore.
Old Apr 8, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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Now your learning.
you're

Originally Posted by wocabin
dont test overbear. he's never wrong. duh
obviously, none of you have really dealt with me in a technical 'disagreement' before.

no matter who it is, everyone is wrong at some point.



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